Zombeavers

[00:00:06] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to the 6th episode of Pugsley crew reviews. Today we have joining us doom spoon. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Hello. [00:00:16] Speaker A: And the film that was chosen by Doom was a film called Zombie. It's a film yes, about zombie beavers. And it's not The Beaver of Omen, it's actual beavers, just in case anyone was wondering. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Although that former zombie. That would be a film that I would like to see. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it would be pretty fucking funny. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Morbid curiosity would get the better of me for that one. [00:00:48] Speaker A: Yeah, agreed. Couldn't disagree with you though. Basically, Zombie Verse is a film about a group of girls who are like trying to go away for a couple of days just to break free from their boyfriends and exes and what have you, to have a nice time without any boys around. And then boys turn up. And then zombie verse. It's rather funny, kind of silly. [00:01:27] Speaker B: It's one of those films that it's not trying to be more than what it actually is. It's not trying to be a serious film. No, which I don't want to say some films are intentionally bad. I don't think this is intentionally bad. I think it's just they're just not taking themselves seriously. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it's definitely an enjoyable film. It starts off like two people in a truck. Nothing to do with the film, really. Well, nothing to do with the film in the respect of you see him speaking at the beginning and that's about it. The stuff they have in the back is what causes the zombie Verse like. [00:02:19] Speaker B: It spills from a toxic waste. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah, but it starts off with them just having a conversation. And the guy's like, hey, look, can you see that up ahead? And he's like, yeah. And then he just runs over a deer. And he's like, oh, I guess I didn't see that up ahead. And it's like, wow. And the deer was in most films when you see a deer get hit by a car, the deer is just dead in this. The deer was all over the fucking all over the truck. [00:02:47] Speaker B: There was no deer anymore. It got deleted. It was all over the place. Yeah. Also, I didn't realize up until what bear in mind, I've seen this film a lot. I think people know me. Certain people in certain circles know me as the you know, it's the film that seems to be synonymous with me. So I've seen this film a yeah. And it's the first time that I've watched it. And I went, oh, my God, that's Bill Burr. You know the comedian Bill Bur? American guy. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:18] Speaker B: Very, very popular. Yeah, he's one of the guys in the truck. I was like, how have I never put two and two together before Bill BUR's in it? Which I thought was quite cool. I don't say cameo because he's technically playing a character. But suppose it is a cameo at the same time. And for a low budget film, I thought, oh, that's pretty cool. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree with you, though. I've took a couple of notes. I believe you've taken a couple of notes. As soon as we start talking about the beavers, one thing I actually wrote down was the beavers look too real. But I think I was being sarcastic there because they look awful. [00:04:05] Speaker B: They are proper low budget, like weirdly, I actually think. Yes, I mean, they do look terrible. They are hand puppets. That's literally what they are. They're beaver hand puppets. Yeah, they're great beaver hand puppets. But you know what? This film would have been so much worse if they had used cheap Sheet CGI instead. Yeah, it's one of those where they are they're crap. And the best thing about it is when you see there's a scene in the film where all the guys, the girls and the guys are like on this platform in the middle of a pond or a lake, and they're being attacked by the zombievers and it cuts to them swimming in the sea in the lake. And you can clearly see it's, these zombiever puppets just stretched over like a remote control boat. And if you look out the back of them, you can see the little where the water is being pushed out from the underwater engine type thing of the boat. It's hilarious because there's no actual movement to them. They're just floating around, essentially. Yes, but I think that adds to the charm because as I said, if they had used cheap CGI to try and to make these guys, I think it would have been so much worse. So I actually appreciate the fact that they actually use, like, physical puppets. Yeah, literally. Just what's that? [00:05:45] Speaker A: Sorry, I was going to say I do like practical effects of a CGI most of the time. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially like if the film's going to be made worse by the CGI side of things. And they are literally just hand and arm puppets. Yeah, but yeah, I love it. I just think they're great. [00:06:06] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's definitely a lot of fun and it's just pure silliness. But the girls then it cuts to the girls at the beginning of the film and they're having a conversation in the car and all I can remember, and even my north is like, there is a lot of talk of shitting. I can't remember exactly what's been said, but they seem to be talking about shitting a lot. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:28] Speaker A: And then they decide to show some guy's dick on the phone. I don't want to see someone's dick. Where's the beaver? [00:06:36] Speaker B: Yes, I forgot about that. Yeah, the note I made about that was the acting when they're in the car. Having that conversation is very suspect at best. Yeah, it's it's it's very awkward, like, in that this isn't good. But I have to be fair, it gets better as it gets on. It is weird. And it's that typical college like a group of college girls. It's that very stereotypical. Not wearing huge amount, talking about guys and all the they want to do to them in one of their cases. Not want to do because their boyfriend cheated on them and things. Yeah. So in that extent, it's quite stereotypical. But yeah, that scene in the car is suspect at best. [00:07:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And also, the music in the car was awful too. [00:07:49] Speaker B: Oh, God, that's not even music. The fact that she's trying to act like she likes it, it just doesn't work. But to me, see, I'm one of these people. I am very resilient to bad films. Like, very resilient. If I can find enter. Like, my thing is, even if a film is shit, as long as I walk away and go, Was that entertaining? Did that entertain me? Then I go, well, there we go. It done its job. I'm absolutely fine with that. Yes, the film shit, but I'm entertained. And that film, this film a little bit, there are parts in it where it's like, oh, that's really suspect. But I'm still entertained by it because it's almost so bad. It's funny times. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I agree with her mom. [00:08:45] Speaker B: The puppets aren't ever trying to look realistic, so that's different. But when they're trying to act like they like some music and the music is horrible and they clearly can't even act like they like it, it is funny. Those little bits just yeah. They scratch an itch that I didn't realize I have. [00:09:03] Speaker A: One of the things they could have done there, thinking about it, is I appreciate where the music was playing. They weren't speaking, so what they could have done is play some music they actually liked. Right. [00:09:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:16] Speaker A: And then in the edit, put different music in there if they couldn't get the license for something. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Someone was like, yeah, let's check this track out. Because it's so shit. It's funny. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah. No, but luckily, I find after that scene, it does get a bit better. Including when skipping forward to, as we say, eventually the guys end up turning up to this. So they go to this remote shack, essentially, that's in the middle of nowhere. And the guys end up turning up because one of the girls prearranged for them to be there. And the one guy in particular, which is the ex of one because he cheated I think his name's Sam. Oh, my God. He's one of the most annoying characters I think I've ever come across in anything. He's so annoying. And it's just an ass. Literally. In my notes, I just said Sam is a piece of shit because so annoying. But yeah. Don't know. The acting does get better after that car scene. [00:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I agree with you, and I agree. I think I wrote down somewhere that the ex boyfriend guy is a complete fucking tool. [00:10:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Far from the fact that he sacrifices the dog. So when they're on that platform. It's not even like he flinches. I mean, you know what? You almost got to give him credit for that. He doesn't even consider he doesn't even run through his mind that this is a bad thing to do. He just grabs the dog and just launches it into the lake with these zombieavers and yeah. Just although he does get his comeuppance later in the film in quite a spectacular way. Yeah. Knowing that I can kind of watch it and enjoy it because I know what's going to happen to him. [00:11:29] Speaker A: Yeah. But the thing with our characters is like, he turns up, he's like, oh, I'm sorry, what I did. And then the entire fucking film, he's just a complete dick to everyone. It's like, yeah, it could at least make him likable. So he's trying to redeem himself, but he's not. And then he carries and then he's still trying to get off with the person he cheated on her with. He should have dick. Yeah. [00:11:57] Speaker B: Did you find as well with this film is it starts off quite very I suppose paint by numbers in the sense of it's that typical group of college girls are trying to get away for the weekend. Little did they know that their boyfriends have been invited. And it's very paint by numbers for the beginning in terms of we've seen this kind of play out a million times. And one of them is not happy with one because they cheated. But then they're trying to get back in their good books. Yada, yada, yada. So fine, it's all good. But then when this film turns and it switches like zombiever mode on, it balls to the wall for basically the rest of the film. And it just ramps it up. Something chronic does. [00:12:48] Speaker A: I can't remember who it was. I was saying, oh yeah, I'm going to watch zombie verse. And they were saying, oh yeah, they love the film. It's kind of like Evil Dead, but much worse acting and all that sort of stuff. And I can kind of see that it kind of is like Evil Dead, like the first Evil Dead from the 80s or seventy s. Eighty s. Eighty s. Early 80s. It? Isn't it evil Dead with Bruce Campbell. [00:13:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:15] Speaker A: I would agree with that. It does kind of have that kind of sensibilities. But it's obviously just not as good as that, honestly. [00:13:22] Speaker B: No, I mean, that's quite different. I think the budget yeah. And the budget was really significantly lower considering as well. [00:13:29] Speaker A: I don't know. The original evil budget was Evil Dead pound. [00:13:37] Speaker B: Get a lockback then for a pound. [00:13:44] Speaker A: So just after the car ride, he sees like a guy and his kid, I believe, fishing or something. The only note I've got written there is the guy wearing the number one dad hat. He looks about twelve. [00:14:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Was he like old enough for that to be his kid? [00:14:03] Speaker A: No, he looks like his slightly older brother. That's just daft. [00:14:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:11] Speaker A: And what I loved, actually, is where the girls turn up to the cabin and then the older woman turns up and she's like, oh, yeah, my daughter's not very attractive, but she's fucking people left, right? I'm old minded. I don't care, man, woman, whatever. I don't give a shit. Why are you shagging? I don't understand how she shaggy people. Because she's so ugly kind of thing. And it's like what? That's brilliant. [00:14:43] Speaker B: Which she just turns from this, like, oh, this older woman who's a bit more respectable to it's. Okay. My daughter's a fucking bitch type thing. And it's like, oh, okay. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:58] Speaker B: You don't see a lot of her, unfortunately. Yeah, but yeah, no. [00:15:08] Speaker A: I just thought it was a really funny scene you wouldn't expect. I was like, yeah, I don't like my daughter. [00:15:14] Speaker B: It does turn on its head, which I suppose it's something that you don't normally expect, which is always good. Yeah. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Then you've got I think not long after that, they go on the lake. One of the girls is topless with her tits out and then a bear shows up and she covers her tits up and I laugh my tits off because why would you cover your tits off from a bear? The bear is not going to be. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Going, hey, boobies, it's a bear. Yeah. And then some hunter guy turns up and kind of shoes the bear off. [00:15:56] Speaker A: And tells them all to put on more clothes. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Proper grump, kind of that grumpy old man. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Yeah. This is a respectable family area with kids. Put your tits away. And he says that to all of them, even the ones wearing, like, bikinis, like pomo. [00:16:16] Speaker B: And then after that, that's when the guys turn up. So then it kind of cuts to the evening from there. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Yeah, the shop scaring the girls by knocking the door and hiding and shit. [00:16:31] Speaker B: And then again, it's very paint by numbers. Like, up to this point, everything's very paint by numbers. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. And one of the quotes I've got written down, or is one of my favorite quotes is, my dick's asleep? It needs to be woken up. And I just thought, no, it doesn't really work because no, I don't like that. [00:16:54] Speaker B: Actually, on that note, obviously the guys turn up and then basically you've got this awkward moment where the two girls and their two boyfriends you cut to it where they're both, like, shagging in their rooms and they're not being quiet about it. And then you're just looking at the other girl and her ex boyfriend who cheated on her just kind of sat there enduring, like, this noise and that. But then it cuts to the one couple and it's my favorite quote, one of my favorite quotes of all time, like me and my friend who watched this for the very first time years and years ago. Every so often we'll just send this quote to each other because it's just one of those that just you chuckle every time. So this guy's like full on doggy position with this girl. They're proper going for it and he just blurts out, I feel like a Power Ranger. And I lost it the first time I listened to that because bearing in mind I've watched this, but every time I watch it, it makes me laugh every time. But he's there just proper, like, ragging this girl and then just out of nowhere just screams out, I feel like a Power Ranger. Yeah, you know what? There's a certain amount of me that kind of totally understands what he's on about and that's what makes it so funny. Do you know what I mean? As a guy, when you're having sex, he's vocalizing the thing that you probably don't realize that actually you're subconsciously thinking a little bit. Do you know what I mean? It's honestly, it's my favorite quotes from any film. And like I said, I just send it to my friend who, as I say, we watched this for the first time, literally, probably not long after it came out. And yeah, it's become a bit of an inside joke now, but yeah, that's probably my favorite quote from the film. [00:18:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that's actually probably mine as well. I did actually have that written down as well. Fuck. Brilliant. Made me laugh my fucking tits off. I probably got a few more on that, maybe. I don't know. I can't remember. I actually found my old notes. I didn't actually end up rewatching it. I'm not complaining. Then again, it would have been easier to watch her in some ways. [00:19:13] Speaker B: Pretty much from that point onwards. [00:19:16] Speaker A: Yeah, the zombie versa start turning up. They start off with one and then they kill it. Chuck her in a bin and like, that's fine, it's dead. It's probably got rabies or something. Yeah. And then the next morning or a few hours later, I can't remember which exactly, it's gone on. And then it's attacking them again and they kind of nail it to a fucking the kitchen unit, on the unit. [00:19:40] Speaker B: And again, because they're hand puppets, clearly the camera is angled in such a way that you can't but you could clearly see they're having to strategically place the camera so you can't see the person's arm controlling it. And then that's where basically all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose. And yeah, this is where the film kind of goes a little bit. Kind of a little bit batch. It crazy, I suppose, because from that point onwards, they're just getting more and essentially they're just getting more and more attacked by these zombieavers. And typically with zombies, as we know, if you get bitten by one, you end up becoming a zombie yourself. That's the very traditional way of doing things. And that is also in this film, you get bitten, you turn into something. However, and this is what I really appreciate is you don't turn into a zombie. You turn into a zombie yourself. Yeah, I remember again, the big reveal of that was like just again, just so hilarious. [00:20:54] Speaker A: It was surprising because the first person it happens to is what I thought was going to be the main character who survives. [00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:01] Speaker A: I genuinely thought that that character was going to be the one who survives. And the character that survives to the end is the really sexed up one who seemed like most of the time, a massive bitch as well. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Very kind of outspoken and yeah, you're almost convinced she's going to be the one that isn't going to make it. But yeah, ironically, well, kind of does she? [00:21:28] Speaker A: To the end of the film, but not for long. [00:21:31] Speaker B: No. Yeah, I was going to say after the credits roll, you find out what happens to her, essentially. But technically she survives. [00:21:41] Speaker A: Survives until the credits. [00:21:43] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. But the thing I find funny is so obviously that old woman that we talked about earlier, she's got a husband and they live in the shack. I say a shack, it's more of a wooden house than a shack. But they the one that's literally just like a couple of hundred meters away. And they're the only two by this lake. And there's this scene, which I find hilarious, when they cut to obviously it's all hell's breaking loose in the one. And they cut to the old couple and the guy's there reading his paper and the camera is like zoomed out and they have a dog. It's a golden retriever. He sat there and the dog is next to him. And I don't know if you noticed, but it's very, very clear that it's almost like a stuffed toy because it doesn't move, doesn't blink. It literally doesn't even twitch a muscle. It's hilarious. It's completely fake. And then literally it cuts to a scene where the guy puts his hand down and strokes the dog. And all of a sudden it's a real dog. So you're like but then the thing I find absolutely hilarious is he's having this conversation. He strokes the dog and you see him stroke the dog and you're like, fine. And then he moves his hand away. And then the old woman goes upstairs and then he mumbles something to himself. This is all within the same scene. He then puts his hand back down to stroke the dog and there's a fucking zombiever there. And it's like, I got written down so many questions. [00:23:22] Speaker A: I got written down a quote from one of that scene. I don't remember exactly, but I'm sure they talk about the noise and stuff going on over there. And I'm sure the woman says to the guy because I'm sure they're like, oh, maybe one of us should go check on him or something. And I can't remember exactly, but then she says to Mar, don't worry, about it. It's just ladies over there scissoring to Lady Gaga. [00:23:50] Speaker B: It's like old people trying to do young people speak. Yeah. And the questions that that scene brings up, because, like I said, all that happens within that one scene, big dog, real dog beaver. Yeah. And you're like big beaver. How did this zombie, we assume, has killed the dog? Because you don't see it from that point onwards. So how did the zombie kill the dog without them noticing, drag the body away and then sit there in place, all within the same scene, while they're literally next to this dog and he's just stroked the thing, he puts his hand back down and he's just a beaver there. And you're like, yeah. [00:24:35] Speaker A: It doesn't make sense. I've got written down here that a lot of the jokes are quite bad, but at the same time, they are really funny. At the same time, one of them, he's like, yeah, I would go down on you more to his girlfriend, I'd go down on you more, but it just smells so bad down there. [00:24:54] Speaker B: I think that's the guy. So one of the guys loses his foot, like, not long after the beaver's attack, and that's the guy. He's a bit delirious for that point. Which actually brings me to another part they decide to take. So a couple of them to take the car and try and take the guy to the hospital. But what do you know, halfway down the road, they've essentially dammed the road. Which is hilarious, the idea of beavers kind of becoming almost sentient and planning. But one of the best thing about it is one of the guys gets out and goes to walk back and all of a sudden he is and then you hear a tree crash and a tree has landed on this guy. And then it just cuts to these two beavers over a tree stump. Like, obviously these two puppets looking each other and they're clearly looking like they're looking at each other and laughing. And you're like, this is fucking mad. They've managed to set a booby trap by munching through a tree quick enough in the exact time they knew where this guy was going to be, like, for the tree to just and just land on him. And it's the fact that it turns to the beavers who are opposite ends of the stump and they just properly looking at each other and chuckling away and you're like, this is crazy. This is mad. It is, yeah. It's just unhinged by that point. [00:26:27] Speaker A: It is a good laugh. And when they barricaded in the house and they tried to stab at the beavers through the window and they were like, gently, slightly tapping them, as if not to hurt the zombie, just gently poking them. And it's like, that ain't going to kill anything. No. I was confused by the amount of zombie vers there were because at one point they opened a door and there's like fucking hundreds of pairs of eyes. And I'm pretty sure a beaver troop. I don't know what it called. In a group of beavers. There's not like hundreds of them normally. So I was like, wait, I'm not normally did all these beavers come from unless everything they were biting would turn into beavers. But then everything while they turn into beavers, they still keep their normalish self. So like the human zombie verse. Human zombie. I think the bay becomes a zombie, but it's a bay sized zombie. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Yeah, that was funny because they were like I think they just crashed the car and they were trying to get it moving again. And all they hear is this bear. And they turn and they're like, oh, shit. And the bear is like, yeah, it's basically a bear with a giant beaver tail and, like, giant front teeth. And you're like, oh, my God, it's turned into a zombiever bear. And the people turn into zombiever people, basically. So they grow a tail. They have these claws, they get the big teeth on the front and yeah, it's wild. And yeah, I don't feel like we're doing it justice. It's one of those films that you do have to watch. It's an experience, and it's definitely worth watching. [00:28:16] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry, I was just looking at something there and I was like, what's that about? Because it looks like at some point in the film, they throw away the foot and shout something like, do you want some chicken? [00:28:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. No. So the girl is trying to pack the foot because they still have the foot where it was bitten off. And he's trying to pack it. And the hunter, who has found them again, he stood next to her while he's watching her pack the foot with ice. And he's just eating this chicken leg. He offers her chicken about six times. He's like, you sure you don't want some chicken? So there's loads in the fridge. And it's hilarious. [00:28:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what it was. It's like offering a chicken, like cooked chicken to eat, which is daft. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:02] Speaker A: So anyway, there was at one point they were doing this Whack a Mole kind of thing, but with zombie, ironically. [00:29:09] Speaker B: I've got that in my notes as well. Beaver. Whack a mole. But yeah, whack a beaver, I suppose. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Whack a beaver. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Well, because apparently they find out that beavers are very good tunnelers. So all of a sudden they're coming up through the wooden floorboards. So there they whack a beaver. There's a point where they realize that everything they're doing is pointless because they're boarding up the doors and the windows with whatever they can find. And bear in mind, it's a wooden hut shack thing, and everything they've got is wood. And then they suddenly come to the realization that it's like, what are they doing? Like, what do beavers eat? Wood. What we're doing, building the defenses out of wood exactly. [00:29:59] Speaker A: It doesn't work. But it does work. It works in the film in the sense of the people are being fucked stupid and using what they can, but it doesn't work because divas chew through wood to make dams and what have you. [00:30:13] Speaker B: Exactly. But thankfully, from that point onwards, it does lead on to a very satisfying part of the film, where Sam the kind of annoying ex who did the cheating, as we said, he's a very, very annoying character throughout the whole thing. [00:30:28] Speaker A: Very unlikable, isn't he? Maybe that's why he dies the way he does. Maybe they did it, have a dickhead character and then have him die in a really cruel way and then everyone gets satisfied. [00:30:40] Speaker B: I would like to think that's why they've done it, because, yeah, he's very unlikable. He's the kind of person you just want to slap because he's arrogant, but not even in an obvious way, which in some way is worse. But he gets his dick bitten off. So that all's well. That ends well. At the end of the day. [00:31:02] Speaker A: The issue I have with that is they're in the middle of beating off zombie. Not beating off trying to get rid of zombiemoff is not the right phrase, then, especially when he gets it bitten off. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Can't beat off anywhere. [00:31:21] Speaker A: And then him and the girl he cheated with are starting to get jiggy with it. [00:31:29] Speaker B: The only two left in the hut, essentially. [00:31:31] Speaker A: It is, yeah, but it just doesn't make sense to me. They should be trying to escape, not trying to just born whilst they're going to die, if they just stay there and born. [00:31:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I suppose the reason why they end up getting naked in the first place is because they're checking each other for bite marks, because they've realized by now that if you get bitten, you turn into a human zombiever, or in some cases, as we said earlier, a zombiever bear. And then from that point onwards, they end up again. Instead of putting their clothes back on and getting out of there and figuring out a way out, they decide to start having sex. But luckily, it doesn't get too far before, as we say, the guy's ex who he cheated on, she ends up becoming a human zombie and they kind of fight her off when that first happens, and she disappears with it, and then all of a sudden, they beat her off. I think she bursts through the floor then, of the room that they're in, bearing in mind they're just in the middle of just about to start having sex and she bites his dick off again. All's well, the ends well, I suppose, but with that, that makes it very satisfying. [00:32:54] Speaker A: It does. [00:32:55] Speaker B: If you ever watch the film a second time, you can almost enjoy his character a bit more because you're like, I know you're going to get your dick bitten off. And as a result of. That you carry on, you're about to get a horrible way to die. It's fine. [00:33:13] Speaker A: The actual note I wrote down is like, why would they randomly start banging in the bathroom? I guess it was daft as the guy just got his dick bitten off by his ex. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. If he kept it in his pants, we wouldn't have this problem. But, hey, Hope, bad decisions and all. [00:33:35] Speaker A: If he kept it in his pants in the first place, then none of them would be there. [00:33:40] Speaker B: Actually, that's a very good point. So it's all his fault, basically, him and the girl who, as we say, is his ex. It's her best friend he cheats on with. So, like, if it wasn't for those two, this literally wouldn't have happened. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it may have happened, just not to them. [00:34:02] Speaker B: It would have happened to just the old couple and the dog. That was it. And the bear. Yeah. [00:34:09] Speaker A: And the hunter. [00:34:10] Speaker B: And the hunter, yeah. [00:34:14] Speaker A: And we wrote about the old couple's dog. Not the dog that Twatface threw in the no. [00:34:20] Speaker B: No. Unfortunately, that dog gets drowned, I guess because you see that little dog as it's swimming away, the zombie of boats end up kind of surrounding it, and then all of a sudden, the dog just, like, disappears under the water. [00:34:35] Speaker A: I would like that to have come back as a zombiever. [00:34:38] Speaker B: That would have been hilarious. [00:34:40] Speaker A: And kill the owner. That would have been cool. [00:34:43] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'd still want him to have his little life jacket on. [00:34:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Because he's got a little doggy life jacket. I'd still want him to have that on as well. Yeah. But yes, that was very cool. And then we kind of get towards the end of the film where the final two people are escaping and as they're driving away, a tree falls behind them. And essentially the camera pans and you realize that the Zombieavers have attempted to spring the tactical tree felling trap again the one earlier where they managed to somehow perfectly time felling a tree to land on. One of the guys from earlier on that we talked about, they attempt it a second time to try and stop the car. This time it doesn't work. And yes, in my notes, I referred to it as a tactical tree felling, but this one doesn't work. And the funny bit is the camera spins and it's a zombieaver. And the old guy from the old couple, who's obviously a human zombiever, they are the ones who have cut this tree or chewed this tree down. And it's the fact that there's a moment where they kind of look at each other and look at the mess they've made and then look back at each other and it's like there's like a certain level of like they almost realize that they screwed up. Do you know what I mean? [00:36:04] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Obviously, this is, like the big spoilers at the end. Two of them have escaped. And one of them is going to shoot the other one because she's cut. And she's like, oh, no, I haven't been bitten. I fell over. Window. And that's where these cuts are, window. And then the other one who's going to shoot her turns out to have been bitten. I don't know when. [00:36:32] Speaker B: No, they don't make that out. [00:36:35] Speaker A: She turns into a zombie person, human zombiever. And then the other one, who the slutty one, I call her the slutty one. She's not really slutty, but she's like she's really horny. The really horny one. [00:36:52] Speaker B: She's the one whose boyfriend, while they were banging, said, I feel like a Power Ranger. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Yeah, that's probably one of the best lines I've heard in a film, especially during the sex scene. I feel like a Power Ranger. [00:37:05] Speaker B: As guys, as I said, we kind of know what he's on about. There's a weird, like yeah, I wouldn't word it like that. But yeah, I get it. [00:37:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:24] Speaker B: I wasn't thinking she was going to be the survivor. [00:37:26] Speaker A: No, I wasn't. But once you get to the I think she escapes past the tree and there's no zombie. [00:37:34] Speaker B: That's about. [00:37:36] Speaker A: And then the credits roll. [00:37:38] Speaker B: The first half of the credits. Yeah. [00:37:40] Speaker A: And then after that, then it shows her gay. It shows the two people in the car from the beginning. They're having a conversation. And they go, hey, can you see that in front of you? And he's like, yeah, just carry on driving. And then runs her fucking I guess I didn't see that. [00:37:59] Speaker B: Circle. [00:38:00] Speaker A: Yeah, and it's pretty good. But there's another end credit scene there is where a bunch of bees go on the zomb beaver. [00:38:16] Speaker B: I didn't look it up, but it wasn't the zombiever. It was the zombiever bear. [00:38:20] Speaker A: The zombie. [00:38:21] Speaker B: The bear, was it? Yeah, because bears eat honey. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it makes sense. But I never looked it up. But is there a zombies sequel? [00:38:31] Speaker B: There's not. And I pray that it gets made because yeah, essentially the idea is that like you said, a bee goes back to its colony, its hive, while covered in the zombiever blood, the tainted blood. So are we going to have zombiever bees or just zombies? I don't know. But yes, there's certainly a very strong suggestion that we're about I say about the film came out a few years. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Ago, 2014 or something like nearly ten years ago. [00:39:06] Speaker B: Yeah. But there certainly was a suggestion that zombies might be a thing. And soon as I saw that, I immediately started googling. Please let it be a thing. As far as we're aware, nothing's said about it. Which is a shame because it's a shame. I would pay good money to watch. [00:39:24] Speaker A: That and join I said there was shit music in the car. Yes, they made up for it with the end credit music. Because that was awesome. [00:39:32] Speaker B: Yes, they did. It's the best outro credits music ever. It's essentially a crooner singing like that proper Frank Sinatra style singing. But literally, it's like to the tune of Zombie. And essentially the lyrics of the song while he's singing it in this very suave way is all the stuff that's happened to everyone. And at some point he does mention that one of the guys gets his dick bitten off and everything. But it's so suave because it's like, that kind of as I said, it's that style of singing, frank Sinatra style. It's amazing. It's honestly one of the best. Like, it's probably where most of the money of that film was spent. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Yeah. But I would agree with that. [00:40:28] Speaker B: It was so good. It was so good. [00:40:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I genuinely enjoyed the film. [00:40:36] Speaker B: Was this your first time watching? [00:40:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I hadn't heard about the film until you mentioned it. When we were doing a few years back, me and a couple of other people doing pugsley crew views, we would watch a film, talk about it, and then we would talk about as we watch it. So then people could listen to it whilst watching the film themselves. So they have our commentary to a film that we were not involved in at all. So they'd have to buy their own version of the film and stuff because obviously it wasn't like proper commentary that you would get because we just a bunch of dicks. And it's something you mentioned. So this was you're looking like four years ago or more that you mentioned it. And then when I decided I'll start doing a film podcast as well as a game podcast because it'd be fun to do, first thing I thought is like, oh, yeah, let's see if Doom wants to do it. And I messaged you. And I was like, oh, what film do you want to pick? And Zombie was like, yeah, I was hoping you'd pick that. [00:41:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not predictable. [00:41:40] Speaker A: No, it's not predictable. It was just I really enjoyed the film. It's low budget. The acting and stuff isn't great, but it comes together really nicely and it's genuinely funny. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's more than the sum of its parts and it's not trying to take itself seriously. It is meant to be. Like, it's technically a horror film. Technically, but it's a horror that does not take itself seriously at all. And it's just a good time. I am a big fan of intentionally bad films as well as bad films. There's something like a morbid curiosity gets the better of me and I need to watch bad films. But it's kind of so bad. It's good. And I feel like that was the point of this. And yeah, it's honestly, whenever people say, what are some of your favorite films? This is genuinely one of them because I can watch it and it's just a good time. There's certain films that I would always say are some of my favorite films of all time. But like The Lord of the rings trilogy and stuff like that, but you can't just sit down and casually watch those films. They're too much like, Where this film? It's really short as well. It's like 70 hours and ten minutes. It's like 74 minutes or something like that. Hour and 15, I'm not sure. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Enjoying the film to pay attention to the time. [00:43:24] Speaker B: It's not a particularly long film and as a result, you can kind of enjoy it. It's not weighty, so you can just kind of enjoy it. It's like a light snack of a film. [00:43:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I really enjoyed it. I'm glad you picked it. I did have a good laugh and that's the main thing. It was entertaining and came away with a smile on my face. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:43:54] Speaker A: But, yeah, I watched it with the Mrs. Usually when I put these films on, I make the Mrs watch them and ask her opinion on it or not, but I haven't asked her this time. But I don't think she enjoyed it because she's a miserable cow. New love. Yeah. Every single film I've put on for this podcast that she has watched, which has been most of them, not Transformers, she has said, what shit are you making me watch now and then? That was shit. And it's like, they're not shit, they're entertaining. [00:44:34] Speaker B: That's it exactly. Even if a film is bad, I can still get entertainment out of it. For me to not like a film, or for me to genuinely call a film bad, it has to, one, not be a very good film and in my opinion, not very good anyway, and two, doesn't entertain me at all. And that doesn't happen very often, but when it does, it really bothers me, really bugs me. And literally, there's only a few films have ever done that as well. So, yeah, I'm very forgiving with films. [00:45:13] Speaker A: There's nothing wrong with that at all. And I think that is going to be us wrapping up here. Is there anything else you would like to add about the film before we do? [00:45:28] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. Apart from the fact that I actually own the film on Blu ray as well. Ironically, I currently don't have a Blu ray player, so I used to have a Series X, so I'd be able to add a Series X, an Xbox One X, so I could use that. But I don't have that anymore and I don't have a Series X. I have a Series S, so I have no way of playing it. Hence why I needed the series X link to it. [00:45:55] Speaker A: Yeah, get a Series X Man, trade it in a Series S and get a Series X and then you can watch Divas in this 4K Glory. [00:46:05] Speaker B: And I believe that version has I'm sure I've got directors commentary on it. I'm sure I do. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:46:13] Speaker B: So, yeah, it's got a load of features, so I do need to kind of explore those a little bit, but no, it's all good. But no, that's about it, really. [00:46:21] Speaker A: Anything you would like to plug, like Metallidads or anything else? [00:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I've done the last few times that I've appeared on one of your podcasts, but yes. So I am a co founder and member of a group called Metalli Dads. We are a men's, or very specifically a father's mental health support group, or mental health support community, I suppose. We have a private Facebook group, which by all means you can join. There's a few questions to answer, but they're pretty basic things, but which is completely confidential. You can kind of share as much or as little as you like there. And we also have a Facebook page, like a public page. We've got a website which is Metallidads.org. Search for Metallidads on Facebook and the page and the group will come up. We're on YouTube as well. We do little bits. Yeah. You know, we basically offer a we're a community support group for Dads to assist in the general struggles of parenting. A lot of us, well, we're all learning on the job, aren't we? But there's over 400 members in the group now and we're all at varying parts of our journey. Some of the guys, we've got our grandparents or great grandparents, and we go down to guys who have literally just had their first child and they'd just been born. So lots of varying abilities. And we do talk about all sorts of crap as well. There's lots of talk about games, movies, d d music, d d we have A-D-D group. Warhammer. There's a Warhammer group that we got little, like, hobby groups going. Yeah, we kind of have got all sorts of things going on within the group. We call Matilda Dads, because anyone who is a dad in some form, it doesn't have to be biological, it could be step kids, adopted grandkids. If you identify as a male and you take on a parental role in any form, then you're welcome, essentially. But our shared kind of interest is kind of rock and heavy metal music. And that's simply because when myself and a friend of mine started the group, we realized that you can't stick a bunch of guys in a room or on a chat or a group and basically say, go and talk about your feelings and your kids because it doesn't work. You've got to have something in common. And both me and him are into kind of rock and heavy metal and that. So we said, why don't we start a group based on that? It's the link that kind of encourages conversation. And that's what happens a lot of the time. We get people join, they maybe will comment on a couple of people's kind of posts about music or they share their own and a conversation starts and then they start to notice that we've got different hobby groups like our D D and our warhammer groups and things like that, which have spread out. We've got like a group of gamers and stuff like that there as well. And then all of a sudden they start getting involved in the community side of things and the groups and that. And then before you know it, those guys are then asking for advice or asking questions about either or just generally using the space as a place to kind of vent if they're struggling with their mental health or something to do with parenting. And it's nice to know we do in person events as well, which are always advertised. We are based in Barry in South Wales specifically, but our community group on Facebook covers the whole world, essentially. We've got people from all over the place on there. But we also do have a coffee morning, which we host here in Barry at a place called awesome Wales every Saturday morning. Which, again, anyone's free to come along and have a chat with us? That's my long winded plug. Done with that. Just search Metallicads on basically anything, and we come up. Basically. [00:50:48] Speaker A: Yes. I take part in d d. You do? [00:50:53] Speaker B: Yep. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm a cleric. [00:51:00] Speaker B: You cleric? I'm a bard. We've got all sorts, but we've also developed a habit of punching stuff in the dicks. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Yes. [00:51:08] Speaker B: And it seems effective so far. It seems to work, yeah. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Didn't work on the dragon. No, didn't get to punch the dragon in the dick. And I think that is going to be us then. So thank you for all for listening. I'll be back next week with a game on Ted's Game Shack, but for another film podcast. It'll be a fortnight. Thank you, everyone, and see you soon. Bye. [00:51:51] Speaker B: I think we've covered most of the film there. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Oh, no. I pressed to unpause it and it didn't unpause and all. I was paused. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Oh, you're kidding. Okay, back to Whack a Mole. Back to whackable. [00:52:07] Speaker A: God damn it, I need a food yet. That's so fucking annoying. I noticed the yellow flashing of the pause button, but it wasn't highlighted like it normally is, so I was like, I'm recording. But no, it.