Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Welcome to the Pugsley Crew Reviews podcast where we talk about all manner of films, whether they're good, bad or anything in between really. We will watch them and talk about them and give you our honest opinions.
Today we are joined with Kerr 9000 again.
How you doing, dude?
[00:00:28] Speaker A: Hi, chap. I'm not bad at all. How are you doing?
[00:00:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'm all right, I'm all right. A bit tired as always.
That's the way it is.
You been up too much?
[00:00:42] Speaker A: No, not a lot. Just the usual game playing and trying to watch my way through an anime.
The name of it Hajime no Ippa.
[00:00:54] Speaker B: Oh, the boxing one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: I think Americans call it fighting spirit, which is a lot easier to say.
[00:01:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it does, it does. It does seem appear to be easier to say.
But yeah, I've seen some of it. I need to watch more of it to be honest. But too much stuff to watch, too much stuff to play.
I haven't got the time, unfortunately.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: It's the nice novelty about nowadays, isn't it?
[00:01:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: Struggle to find things to watch with four channels and limited VHS collection and nowadays with the world at your fingertips.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's too much to watch exactly.
Like you jump on, I don't know, Netflix or something like that and there's just such a huge choice. Don't be wrong, everything's gonna be great on there anyway. Like there's gonna be good, decent stuff, bad stuff. But when you have so much choice, it's just like oh, what pr and then you just go and do something else. There's times where I've literally sat here game wise. Now I've said, you're right, I'm going to stream something. Right. I finished the games I've been playing. Let's start something new. I'll sit here for three or four hours and then just go to bed. Not doing anything after staying at the screen thinking what to play. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:02:12] Speaker B: I'm like, why am I like this?
What is wrong with me?
I don't know any who.
We are going to be talking about a film called Twin Town. It's a film I have seen a few times when I was younger and I really enjoyed it when I was younger.
I think you said you've seen it but you don't really. Didn't really remember her.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: I remembered it being billed as being the Welsh train spot in and I remembered little flashes of it but not enough, you know, I knew I had to watch it again to talk about it, yes, it's.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: It's an enjoyable film that. Well, I enjoyed it as a kid anyway, because obviously come out 97. I'm not sure if I watched it around that time. So I probably would have been about like 15, 14, 13, 16.
I would have been in my early teens, early to mid teens.
So there you go. Yeah. But when it, when it's compared to Trainspotting, I think it's a very, very different kind of film.
Trainspotting's a lot more serious, I guess.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
This hasn't got the sort of level of polish that Trainspotting's got.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't compare it myself directly to Trainspotting, but I think the advertising department did an amazing job by linking it to train spotting.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Because it was. It's a bit like now where you get those like, low budget films where there'll be like Star wars and then they'll be like War among the Stars. Or you have like the Terminator. The Terminator, you know.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: That's not what they tried with this, but the advertising to it kind of tried that.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I get you. I get you.
Yeah. Because like the film is a very, very different kind of film to Brains Barton. I think the only commonality is that there's drugs in both, but one of them is like a bit of weed. The other one's about heroin. It's very, very different. Sticks.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Yeah. They mention like cocaine and stuff in this, but the twins you do mostly see, I'm just smoking weed and snorting glue and.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, there's cocaine in there. Whereas the, the, the people who were involved in the cocaine are like the rich person and the cops.
Whereas the, the main protagonists then smoke a bit of weed and steal cars and sniff a bit of glue.
But for those who are unfamiliar with this film, film is set in and around Swansea in Wales.
Just in case anyone's wondering, because, you know, Wales is not really. Most people think, oh, that's England, it's wheels.
[00:05:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
I seem to think it's in South Wales and it's the second or third biggest place in Wales.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Swansea is a pretty big place. And it's in South South Wales.
I'm not sure far away it's from me, but it's, you know, I'm close to Cardiff than I'm Swansea.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I know there's quite a divide from like north to South Wales.
From my experience. One's a bit more like the castles and stuff people imagine and the others more built up.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: I couldn't tell you which way around.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: North Wales is more of a rural thing than South Wales but you know, it's just the way it is in it.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: I went to Wales a lot as a kid but it's not somewhere I've been very much as an adult.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: No, that's fair, that's fair. I live in Wales so you know. Yeah, I've been there a lot.
But I'm from South Wales, not north.
North is a lot more.
More Welsh I would say than South Wales.
That makes any sense at all. Like it's more common to speak Welsh. It's more common to do certain things but you know, are considered Welsh.
Yeah, more traditions and that sort of thing.
Yeah. So as I was saying, this film is set in Swansea. It's about two guys who are twins but not actually twins. For some reason they just called the twins allegedly.
They basically like to steal cars and smoke weed.
There's also two cops who are bent coppers as they would call them, which are involved with cocaine. Then there's another guy who's like.
I think his name is Bryn.
He's. I'm sure I've seen him in other stuff and I'm sure his name is always fucking Bryn.
And he is like this rich guy and all well off. I don't know how rich he is meant to be but you look at his house and there's a big nice house with a pool and everything.
And he's kind of like running the show when it comes to the drugs I guess.
But you know, it stems from little things happening. Like Fatty, who is the twins father. As a fall during a job for Bryn.
They don't get any kind of like compensation or anything from Bryn and he just like gives him 20 quid and tells her to off basically. So they decide to then piss on the daughter.
[00:08:07] Speaker A: I love that.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: Which is pretty grim really.
It is funny. It is hilarious. I. I really like the film in general. Like I still think it's really good personally.
But maybe that's just my wealth showing through.
Basically after that Bryn and Terry, which is the Scottish copper, he is, I don't know why is a Scottish copper in Swansea.
I'm unchecking. But they then beat up the twins.
The twins then get revenge by cutting off Bryn's dog's head. Off.
I think I already said off. I'll say it again. Off.
And leave it on the bed of Bryn's bed.
Leave her on the bed of Bryn's bed.
And it keeps escalating from there.
Terry then who is told by Bryn to kill their dog.
Is that the twins have got a dog.
That was the plan. And he sets the dog. He puts the dog in a. Is it the doghouse, locks the door and sets it on fire. Unfortunately, the fire causes the entire caravan that they're living in on fire, which kills Fatty, the father, the mother and the sister.
So from there on it's like. Well, it does go a bit more serious, but it still keeps that funny tone. And then obviously, the twins retaliate by basically hanging Bryn and while they chuck Fatty into the sea.
Not as bad as you sound. Fatih wanted to be buried at sea. They bury him at sea. They tie Terry to the coffin and he goes in with it. It's quite a. Quite a bit rough, like, you know, but happens.
But all throughout. It's just funny as well. It's got a lot of comedy to her. And it does make me laugh.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: I mean, that's the thing, is that terrible things happen, but there's always a dark aspect of humor to it. Yeah, it's. It doesn't shy away from being terrible, but it always does it.
Tongue in cheek with a laugh beside the horror.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: And I think, yeah, obviously I'm not Welsh.
Well, British, English, whatever you want to say. But this reminded me of a lot of places my brothers lived. He's lived on a lot of council estates.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: Where there've been loads of weed heads and people stealing each other's cars and growing family rivalries and fights. And I just think if you've lived in a sort of.
Or visited an impoverished part of this country, be it Wales, England, Scotland, you'll have seen people like this. You'll be able to relate to it. And that's why it works. Because it's like holding a mirror up to part of society.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. It does work. Obviously, things go a bit far and things like. You wouldn't really know much about that aspect, like people killing each other over a dog, but.
Well, maybe you would. I don't know. But it. It's.
It is quite talent of, like, rundown places, you know, impoverished places.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
Well, I think in a way where this does differ from train spotting.
That kind of glamorizes everything in a way. Train spotting, You've got the drug. Take him. You got the, like, intense music and it's all, like, played for adventure and it tries to make it look glamorous.
I don't think this does that. I think this is more grounded in humor, but it also kind of does show people for being a bit.
It's not like saying, go be like this. Do you know what I mean? It's more grounded.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I guess the kind of tale
[00:12:52] Speaker A: to this is like, if you're going to go eye for an eye, be careful because, like, the whole thing might go far beyond what you ever intended. Because, I mean, like the guy only intended to go dog for dog, but it was because there was a gas canister next to the kennel that it like shot the fire into that which blew everything, which then, you know, he pushed further than he intended to and then they were left in a situation of do we sort of hit back? And that's why it all got out of hand, because it just escalated and then little accidents happen. And yeah, kind of if you want to be gangster, are you willing to go all the way?
If you're not, don't start it. Basically, I think, is the message I'd take from this film.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it is, it is.
I think it's like very simple premise, but I think it's executed quite well myself.
Like I said, I've enjoyed it since I was a kid, basically, so I haven't seen it since I was a kid, but I always remember being very fond of it, you know.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
The thing that the one twin in it, he's the guy that plays the lizard in one of the Spider man films.
[00:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Rhys Evans.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: He's the one out of this that I think's definitely gone on to the sort of biggest career.
[00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:27] Speaker A: I'm sure that him and the other brother, even though they're listed with different last names, I think they are actually brothers in real life.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: I have no idea. The thing is, is like with. With Rhys events, I'm not sure, like his name is Rhys. His last name. I've always wondered, is he Reece Ifans or Rhys Ivans?
The reason why I Wonder is because 1F, because his name is Rhys Evans. To me it seems like a Welsh name, Right.
But in Wales, double F is pronounced F.
One F is pronounced V like a V.
Rees Ifans or Rhys Evans.
I don't know.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: I've heard people say it both ways, but I don't know whether it's one of those things where people have said it wrong and not got corrected and
[00:15:18] Speaker B: it's kind of no idea.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: Yeah,
[00:15:22] Speaker B: he's also, if you remember, I believe. Yeah, I am correct. It's Eyeball Paul, isn't it, from Kevin and Perry Go Large.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: Because he drinks. He drinks through his alcohol, through his eyeball.
That's. That's rough, man. I Could not do that.
Nah, nah, that was a good film as well.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: I think the worst I've seen was somebody I used to work in a pub for 10 years, all right, Somebody they'd had parts of their mouth and throat removed due to some form of cancer and they've got a pipe in the neck and they used to inject alcohol into a syringe to then inject it into their neck hole.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: Oh, that sounds, that's, that's rough.
Can't be helped like if that's how they have to drink. But it sounds rough.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: So what did you think of this film then, Kerr?
[00:16:26] Speaker A: It's a pretty good film. I do think there's, there's some pacing issues where it, it's faster and slow and it kind of moves around weirdly.
But overall I think it's a good film.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I like it. And this is one of the few films that I picked myself because I don't pick a lot of them because I'm just like, I would stick whatever on, not whatever, but you know what I mean? I mean he's like, what should we watch?
Actually I think the last few films I've said, let's watch this one.
Like the last film we watched, Black Roses, I was literally like, have you seen this film? You're like, no. I was like, we're watching this film.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: It's hard, it's hard to pick films because on the one hand you want to talk about things you want to talk about so that you have a dog in the game. But then you are thinking, well if other people are going to listen to this, what do other people want to hear about?
What could I put out there that will attract either the most people or the people that will get the most from it?
And I don't think on that terms this is a bad shot either because obviously with its at least advertising wise connection to train spotting, it is like train spotting's lesser known twin in some ways.
So yeah,
[00:17:49] Speaker B: it's been some funny, there's some funny things in here. Like one of my, one of the early scenes in this that I genuinely thought was funny is when the twins come home from their first joyride and the all the family's having a go at them. And then the father turns around and says something along lines of and stay away from my glue.
Yeah, I, I, I do notice they for my boats, not for up your nose. I then he turns around and says buy your own glue. And I can't help but laugh at that because it's like it's not. It's not. Do not be sniffing glue. It is if you're going to sniff glue, buy your own. Yeah. What the.
[00:18:29] Speaker A: That's why it's funny.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
And one other scene. There's plenty of scenes that are funny but I only wrote on a couple is when Joe and there's like a little troop of kids tootling their horns and stuff and they're in the road and they get up and then Terry gets kicked in the leg and then punches the fucking kid in the guts. I couldn't help but find that funny.
He's like a fucking 12 year old kid or something. He's fucking decking him just because he's like I don't like kids basically.
Another conversation that had me laughing, not laughing actually thinking about is when he's on about the 2 liter bottle of cork. 2 litre bottle of coke was 27p but a 1 point. Well a 1 liter was 37p. That's fine. My point is like I Garrett, sometimes they do deals and what have you but what I don't get is, is I don't remember cork being 27p for a 2 liter bottle of. Of it. Now it's like fucking nearly three quid for a two liter bottle of cork.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: The thing is, I don't think when I was young I'd have drank that much coke. I think, you know, you kind of started out on the sort of Panda shandy, flat top sort of crap pot because that's what you could get with your pocket money.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not the biggest cork fan anyway, I'm very strange and I find it has a soapy taste to it. But I like Pepsi Max a lot.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I like Pepsi Max.
Especially the cherry one.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is strange cuz I don't mind cherry corks. I don't find that's got a soapy taste. But other corks are disgusting.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Weird.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: But yeah, another thing I found funny is throughout the film they'd always place bets on certain things like you, you answer this question or you do this thing or the flag stays floating for a certain more time and if it's. If you get it wrong, you got to take a talk on that bong or pipe or whatever, hold your breath for so long.
It's like the people used to like. I'm not sure how old these kids are meant to be. Like are they meant to be kids or they meant to be older because they're obviously old enough to drive.
Well, yeah, they supposed to be old enough. I'M assuming they are. I'm assuming they meant to be young adults, like 20s.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Because it's insinuated that they'll go to jail, isn't it? Not juvie, if you know what I mean. So
[00:21:14] Speaker B: another thing as well that I found funny in a peculiar sense is I'm 90% sure throughout the film their names are never mentioned, but in the credits the names are something like Jamie and Justin or something.
But I'm sure they never called that. They just called the twins.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: I think you might be right on that because I don't remember them ever being, like, talked to on their own or.
There's not really any time where you do get them apart, is there?
[00:21:46] Speaker B: No.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: And it's always like, if someone's going to moan about or what they, like, get them two bastards or it's never, you know.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So I. I'm surprised they got first names they never mentioned.
Yeah, I. I enjoyed my time with it, like I said, it's been like a long time since I watched. Watched it, but I still think it's funny. I think that's what I want to get more from it is it makes me laugh.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
It has got a good sense of humor to it and that does really help.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of juvenile in a way, like a lot of it. But I think that's fine. This.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: Run with it. A juvenile human hand again.
[00:22:41] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly.
But it is interesting how it starts off with, like, little things and then it just escalates into, like, five people ending up dead, all because of someone falling off a ladder.
[00:23:06] Speaker A: It does set things up well. I mean, it's like the conversation early on in the film about the dad saying, I want to be buried at sea if I go. And the mum's like, you can't, you daft twat. There needs to be paperwork or whatever. And, yeah, I think a lot of stuff that's hinted at the start does come back by the end to actually read something.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah.
I think it's well done.
It's an enjoyable film.
I don't really have much else to say about it other than I liked it, I thought it was good and I think more people should watch it if they have.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Anything else you want to add or. We good to wrap up, or.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we're good to wrap up on that one. Yeah. I definitely recommend people give it a watch, especially if. I mean, I suppose we've ruined most of it if you've not seen it, but you've heard this and you think it sounds good, then definitely give it a watch.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Exactly. My hope is that whenever people listen to this podcast, they'll see the film and instead that we're gonna do. And instead of listening to the podcast, if they haven't seen the film is watch the film, then listen to the podcast. Because I think you'll get more out of the podcast, especially if you haven't watched it. Listen to the podcast, then watch it.
Some of the fun elements or surprises or things like that will get, you know, spoiled. Like I'm sure I've done this podcast where within like five minutes the ending have been talked about and it's like, you know, spoilers straight away. So it's, it's best to always watch the film first. Unless you don't really care about watching the film. Just like listen to us talk about films, then that's also good.
It's up to you what you do. Basically. Who am I to tell you what to do but I can't have an opinion.
Yeah, that's going to be it from us then. What would you rate this film?
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Eight out of ten, I reckon.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: I think I'd give her an eight as well actually.
It's a really fun film.
Makes it made me laugh his boobies in her which I completely forgot about until I was watching like ah, I remember this happening.
Terrible. But no, it's a good film.
I think people should watch it.
You should get a good time of. It's only an hour and 30 odd minutes long, so it's not too long if, if that's an issue because some people like, oh, films are too long.
Especially nowadays when film's like six hours long and you only get the first part.
Yeah.
Anyway, that is gonna be us. I'd like to thank you again, Kir, for taking part. As you know. It's always a pleasure.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Well, you're very welcome. Thanks for having me.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: No problem at all. Bye bye. Everyone by.
And this glue is for my submarine and not for putting up your noses, I don't think. I don't notice because I do.
Buy your own glue.
