Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Welcome to the Pugsley Crew Reviews podcast where we talk about all manner of films, whether the good, bad or anything in between. We'll watch them and give you our honest opinions.
Today we have joined us Kerr 9000. How you doing, dude?
[00:00:20] Speaker A: I'm all right, chap. How are you doing?
[00:00:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not doing bad. I'm not too bad. Bit tired as usual, but I'm always tired, so that's nothing new.
Been up to much recently?
[00:00:33] Speaker A: No, not really. I've just got an Oculus 2, or they call it Meta Quest 2 or I don't know anymore what they call them. Yeah, but I've been playing about with that. I nearly watched this film in it. I think I might when we do a future film, because it's like you can do a cinema seats and everything, can't you? I experiment.
Yeah.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Nothing wrong with her. I haven't got a. We've got a Meta Quest three in the house, but my son had that for his for Christmas one year last year and all the year before, year before 2024.
And he loves it, but he mainly plays games on it like Gorilla Tag and Animal Company and various other games. I don't know exactly what, but I've got a PlayStation VR 2 which I use to play games and I've tried using Steam to do like watching stuff and I just can't get it to work properly. I think it's just me.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't fully know what I'm doing yet either with mine, to be honest.
I've seen that Gorilla Tag thing as a download, but I've not tried it. I've tried Beat Saber because my daughter's into that and she's off.
I was gonna say she's off at uni, but she's finished uni now. Anne's working, but.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Oh, nice.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: She's out the ass, living on her own.
So.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Well, Beat Saber, I've played quite a bit of. And it's great.
Gorilla Tag, I believe is like free on the Meta Quest, but it's like 20, 30 pound on steam and I'm not paying it because it looks. Doesn't look like my kind of thing. I'll probably die as well because I've seen my kid playing there and it just looks so extensive, like, so exhausting then. Yeah, not for me.
Anyway, enough about VR.
We're here to talk about film and the film is called Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
I would normally say tomatoes, but as the film is called Attack of the Kill Tomatoes, I'll let. I'LL let her get away with it this time.
Film starts off, you know, but before we even start talking about the film. Have you seen this film before?
[00:02:52] Speaker A: I realized when watching it, I think I've seen it once as a kid, a long, long time ago.
But I grew up watching the second one all the time. So I'm really familiar with the tomatoes in the universe. But, yeah, not so much with this exact film.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: See, I thought I was talking to Jasm about me and you doing this. I was like, yeah, I remember watching this kid, but I've watched it now and I think, did I ever watch it as a kicks? I don't remember any of this. I remember the cartoon really well.
Yeah, I don't know about this.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: This is the cartoons. More based off the sequel.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: Yeah, makes sense.
I have to watch the sequel
[00:03:33] Speaker A: definitely
[00:03:34] Speaker B: at some point, but yeah. So the film starts off like every other film with a great intro song.
Oh, yeah.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: It's so camp, but amazing in it.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: It is. Yes. It's campy. Fun song. It's really good and probably the best part of the film for me.
Spoilers. I didn't enjoy you very much.
It seemed to be.
The film seemed to be doing like a heart. Like you're like a plane and Naked Gun. They seem to be going for that kind of vibe before them, obviously, but it doesn't hit the mark for me.
Well, that's just me.
So, yeah, it basically, it starts off with some people getting killed by some rolling tomatoes and they make weird noises.
I don't know why they make those noises.
[00:04:38] Speaker A: No, but I love it.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: It is great.
I'm assuming in later stuff they have faces because in this they don't like even the artwork. And that has got faces on the tomatoes.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: Not really.
I'm sure in the sequel they don't have faces, but in the sequel, a mad doctor uses something that turns the tomatoes into people, basically.
So they just look like normal people, but they're a tomato.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: Okay.
That's not weird.
Yeah.
Basically the film's premise is, for some reason, tomatoes are killing people.
There's a detective well copy his team, which consists of a swimming professional, deep sea professional, some other guy, and then sky specialist.
I don't know what the other guy was meant to be, but he just seemed to run around with a sword all the time whilst wearing his parachute. And he got kind of irritated and I was like, why didn't he take the parachute off?
[00:05:52] Speaker A: I love when he did the full chase with the parachute on. He's jumping over things and through Things and he just never moves it.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I also thought it was funny at the end, like join.
Like, obviously this is the end of the film. That way they're all attacking the tomatoes and they're all charging. Pretty sure you see people trying not to trip over that parachute and like I'm to jump over it while he's charging forward.
It's daft.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: It's a very, very daft film. And basically the whole mileage on this film depends how much insane weirdness you're willing to put up with.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I would agree, but I'm willing to put up with some insane weirdness, but I just. I just found it quite boring.
Wasn't funny enough. There were some good moments. Like the dog.
Like one of my favorite parts was the kid going hey to the dog. I don't know. Hey, Chuck, what's that over there? I don't know, Timmy, I'll go have a look. That kind of thing.
But you know, silly things like that. There are some funny moments in the film that at least give me a chuckle. But overall I think kind of falls a bit flat for me.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: It's. It's a bit like Monty Python sketch, showy esque in that there's little jokes that are there for not a lot of reason.
And it's not really a proper big cohesive story. There is a story to it, but you can't count on the next scene after the one you're watching. Really carrying the story on so much as being a one off joke that goes nowhere.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they get you.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: But I suppose it is sort of the precursor to things like Scary Movie and stuff because it is just a script thinly held together by lots of one off jokes.
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Like the thing is with Scary Movie, it does parody other films. I don't know because this was before I was made, before I was even born. I don't know if it's parried in anything's parried in anything specific.
So like the references, if there's references there to other films or other pop culture at the time, it's gonna go way over my head.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: I don't think it's so much any particular film as it's like parried in the 1950s B movie.
How can we make people scared of this bizarre monster or sort of like parody in the general without picking out individual stuff is what I think.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: I'm not sure because it does go on about Alfred Hitchcock's Birds.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: Beginning. And then it was on about like in some. Some place in America. I can't Even remember, I should have written it down, but, like, a place was descend on by thousands of crows and they struck together. I don't know if that's actually true or if it's just something they wanted to add to the film. I don't know.
No one's laughing now. And that's what he said at the end of that specific part, not at the end of the film.
Also, I wasn't expecting a cameo.
It's not a cameo from Superman.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: Because in this film, the main characters are the president's chief of something.
Main detective cop, slash dude.
And then the reporter.
The reporter's name is Lois something.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: Fairchild.
[00:09:41] Speaker B: Fairchild is there.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: And she, like, trying to interview the someone. The cop, I think, at the time, the detective.
And she sees someone walk past and goes, like, hi, Clark. And he goes, hi, Lois.
And then all of a sudden, you're in the background, up, up and away.
You just see some guy watching. Watching the sky.
That was daft.
Like I said, there are some moments that made me chuckle. Overall, I don't think the film did it for me.
Unfortunately, I in.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: I enjoyed it enough.
But it was a collection of jokes where one out of three had hit, and the others, you kind of go, oh,
[00:10:33] Speaker B: yeah.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: Which isn't a great ratio.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: No.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: The thing I did find very Monty Pythonesque was when they were all crawling over the table to get into their chair in that stupidly small room.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that was great.
And then the one guy climbing back over the tables to speak, even though he didn't need to.
The Japanese guy.
Oh, yeah.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: But did you notice how badly dubbed he was?
[00:11:03] Speaker B: I did, Yeah. I. I'm guessing it was like a parody. That would have been okay. I. I don't know. The pro people probably still do it, like.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: No, I think it was trying to, like, parody the, like, Godzilla movies and stuff, obviously with him being a scientist, advising what was happening. But I noticed he knocked a picture with his arm.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:26] Speaker A: And it was a picture of a US warship that then fell into a fish tank or something. I'm like, is that referencing Japan and America at war?
[00:11:40] Speaker B: It would be nice if we knew what these references were about.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it, like, specifically lingered on it. So I'm like, I'm sure that's some weird war jab sort of thing.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
To be honest, I haven't really got a lot to say about this film because I just thought it was kind of, as I said to my missus, kind of, meh.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: Yeah, there's. There's some bits that are Desperate time wasting.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:09] Speaker A: Some stuff I do like, I Like there was a bit that was really a Jaws parody. The women were bobbing up and down in the water. And then you got like a. The way Jaws plays a cello, like, as the sharks come in. They were playing, like, an awful version of that with tomatoes bobbing up and down in the water. And bless the woman that was a swimmer.
She was proper screaming like it really was Jaws. I was like, you're acting too good for this film, love.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: I get you.
Yeah.
Another bit that really threw me was when they were. When the.
The president. I can't remember, he was. He was the president. Something.
He was. Went to, like, a agency to get, like, oh, let's make it sound like these tomatoes are not too bad. And he. And then all of a sudden, it breaks out to a musical number.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: I quite like that musical as well. I thought he was a bit too. The salesman was a bit too good for the film. Yeah.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: I just don't know where it came from. And then obviously he shows him an ad and it's like, okay, that's crazy. And this goes back to him again and shows him. He shows a second ad, but they don't actually show that ad.
[00:13:26] Speaker A: The thing I couldn't believe that they did was when the disguise expert was dressed as Hitler.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I was not expecting that.
[00:13:35] Speaker A: I was like, I don't think that had met the cut today.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: No, probably not.
No. I don't think it would.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: His disguises were crap. But the film sold him as if he was, you know, actually a tomato or actually Hitler or. It always, like, sold it. Like, everyone believed in them.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Even the tomatoes were, like, believing that the disguise guy was the tomato until he said, hey, can someone pass me the ketchup?
Because he's in the middle of eating someone's arm. I think.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:17] Speaker B: Another bit that I did find funny is where the woman gets the. The swimming expert is helping, is doing her work. I don't know why she's sitting. She's not swimming. She never swims. She just sits down and she's having, like, some food. And then all of a sudden, she's attacked by tomatoes and killed. Fair enough.
But she is to be warned by parachute guy the tomatoes are in the area. He turns up, finds a dead, and then warns her that there's tomatoes in the air and then leaves. Anyways, Like I said, chuckly bits.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: There was loads of bits that were like 30 seconds long, but I thought were really good. I liked a bit where they were in a supermarket and the tomatoes were like rolling backwards and forwards over people's bodies.
And that only lasted a few seconds. And I thought they should have done that more.
Oh, and I love the bit for humor where this. It's towards the end of the film where they're like saying that the tomatoes are destroying LA and destroying this town. And it's one brick wall with a crowd of people running and screaming from left to right across the big wall. And they're like, la. And then they'll go San Francisco and they'll run the other way. And I was just like, yeah.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: I found it funny, though.
There's points at the film where I'm 90% sure it says New York and I'm sure it's San Francisco.
And then it does it again says New York, question mark, and I'm sure again San Francisco. So I'm sure the Golden Gate Bridge is in it.
And Gold Gate Bridges in San Francisco. Just when they.
Just, like in between certain shots. So, like, they're in the middle of talking, they'll show like a picture of, like, oh, they're in New York right now doing something. But obviously they aren't just saying there is.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: Do you know how much this film costs to make?
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Honestly? I reckon about five grand.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: £90,000. Really?
[00:16:24] Speaker B: Not a low budget as I thought.
Low budget, don't get me wrong, like.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: But, you know, it should have only cost about 35,000 grand because, you know that helicopter that's flying and then it hits the floor and explodes?
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: That was an accident. They rented that helicopter to film it, fly in and actually crashed it.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Oh, shit.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: And exploded it. The pilot, other than scratches and cuts, was fine, but obviously they had to pay for the helicopter they'd forked.
So 60 of the 90 grand was that helicopter.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: I am shocked that that was not intentional.
Jesus, you're about things happening. No, no, you've. I've seen the thing where the helicopter crashes in that other film.
[00:17:17] Speaker A: Oh, the one where it killed people? Yeah. Twilight Zone. It chopped two kids and a grown man in half or something.
[00:17:24] Speaker B: It was pretty grim.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
Apparently this guy walked away with cuts and scratches and bruising and, you know, was all right not too long after.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: So I'll complain then, apart from the money down the toilet. And you could say I was in a helicopter crash during a film and it was real because I screwed up my. Damn it.
Damn. Now I've told everyone I crashed the helicopter. No one's going to hire me again.
That's going to be.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: That's the best thing is Though how much they reckon this film initially made?
They've not got an exact figure, but they reckon this film initially made between 2 to 5 million.
[00:18:10] Speaker B: Really?
[00:18:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And that over the years since then, this film was made around 25 million when you count VHS, DVD rental.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Shocking.
Made a massive profit then.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, isn't it? If it's not a stupid budget, you can make more. When they invest money in films nowadays and they put millions of moons in the film.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: You gotta do a lot to break even.
[00:18:43] Speaker B: Exactly. It sucks.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: But weirdly, the sequel to this is full of gags about them running out of money and having no money.
They advertise Pepsi and Honda bikes or something. In the middle of the sequel, they literally go, we've run out of money. So here. Pepsi. The choice of a generation. And they must have been minted. And doing that just purely to take the pee.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Makes sense.
I do wonder how many of these films there are, though.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: There's currently four of them out.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: But it's really hard to get number three and number four because I don't think they've ever been released for this region. You have to, like, buy imported discs and have, like, players that can play them or be lucky and find them dodgy somewhere.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: And number five. Well, I say number five, apparently it's a complete reboot. Is releasing online today.
We're filming this. Yeah.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: And that's called something like Attack of the Killer to Martyrs. Organic Intelligence.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
I wonder how good that will be. I wonder if it'll be an improvement on this. For me, at least.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: I recognized one actor in it and I can't remember who it was now, but there was like one name out of a hundred where I went, oh, yeah, it's him. I mean, this film, I don't know a single actor. So it's up on this film.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't know anyone in this at all.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Eric Roberts, that's who's in the new one that I recognized.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: Name sounds familiar, but I can't picture the person.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: It's Julia Roberts, brother. He was the best thing I can say that you might know.
You know the Doctor who TV movie with Paul McGann?
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: He was the master in that.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: Oh, right, yeah, I know who that is.
Yep.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: I think he might possibly be the biggest star in it, though, from the looks of the list of actors I read.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: I haven't looked into it. You mentioned it when we were discussing talking about this film that it was coming out, and I was like, oh, no, that's cool. It's really funny timing as well, because I didn't know it was going to be a thing after I mentioned this film.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: No. And I've got no clue.
I mean, I've never. I've seen this and I've seen number two a million times, but I've never even seen three and four because, like I said, the.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I have to import from America. Is there.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah,
[00:21:39] Speaker B: maybe someday.
Maybe.
I, I personally haven't got much else to say about this film. Is there anything else you would like to add before we wrap up?
[00:21:53] Speaker A: Nah, I can't think of a lot, really. I mean, it just is one of those, like low budget passion project films. Well, I say low budget. I wouldn't call 90,000 low, but, you know, relatively by Hollywood standards.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
Lowish budget.
Yeah, we've watched a lot worse. I think we've. I think the problem for this film for me is not so much that it was.
It wasn't like. It was like really bad compared to some of the other films we watched or really good in comparison to other films. It was just kind of meandering. It kind of just didn't do it just kind of.
It's just kind of meh. A bit bland, you know, that was my problem there. It just felt like it didn't really do anything to excite me or disgust me. I don't know. I don't know where I'm going, but. But it didn't, it didn't do enough to like, catch my attention then. Like, it's not like it's so bad. It's all. It's good. It's not, it's just, just. It's just a little bit boring.
Apart from a couple of quips,
[00:23:02] Speaker A: it just made me want to watch the sequel because I'm. I like that one a lot.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: And I'll have to check it out.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: It's one of the first acting films of George Clooney. The sequel.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: I would have to check it out, definitely.
Yeah, I'm down for that.
But for now, I think we're gonna call it here. And before we go, what would you rate this film?
[00:23:35] Speaker A: Maybe four out of ten.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: I was thinking the exact same.
That's brilliant. Four out of ten. Here we go. Four out of ten from both of us.
That's what it's worth. So. So thank you everyone for listening. It's been a pleasure as always. Me and Kurt will be back as soon as possible. We're hoping to get four films done this month.
Obviously it's the first of four, but we'll see how that goes.
So take care, everyone. Thank you for taking part again, K.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you for having me.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: No problems at all. Bye. Bye.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: Bye.
Hey, will somebody please pass the ketchup?