Thanksgiving (2023)

January 17, 2024 00:40:03
Thanksgiving (2023)
Pugsley Crew Reviews
Thanksgiving (2023)

Jan 17 2024 | 00:40:03

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This week on the podcast we have joining us for the first time Doomed Prinny and returning guest Kerr9000 to discuss Thanksgiving (2023).

Thanksgiving is a story about what can happen if you aren't careful during Black Friday sales. Based on a fake trailer from the Grindhouse double feature it's a horror film that takes place during Thanksgiving a year after a Black Friday sale caused the death of people during a shopping riot. Bloody, violet fun ensues in this film.

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[00:00:05] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to Pugsley crew reviews. Today I have two guests, Kernine thousand. Hi. And doomed Prinny. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Hello. [00:00:19] Speaker A: The film we are going to be discussing today is called thanksgiving. It was released in 2023. The person who decided on this film was runny. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Yay. Horror for the win. [00:00:35] Speaker A: Nothing wrong with a bit of horror. I think Kirk can agree with that, too. Oh, yeah. [00:00:39] Speaker C: I watched plenty of horror. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Any reasons why you picked Thanksgiving? [00:00:47] Speaker B: So I watch a lot of horror. Even if it's like Beeline, even if it's awful, even if it's like. Even if it's world like, regardless, I'll watch it. I had very low expectations for thanksgiving just because of the name I knew. Okay. It's themed. It's going to be tacky. It's going to be pointless. I was actually pleasantly surprised. And I thought, if we're going to do a film review, let's review film. I mean, in my opinion, I thought, okay, it's the first time I've seen a horror in maybe two, three years. That was, I don't know, got me thinking, got me recommending. So I thought, okay, well, at least if I'm going to subject them to a movie, it will be decent. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I get that. [00:01:36] Speaker C: It's got a really interesting history around it as well. We didn't get this in England, but you might know these two films, Planet Terror and what's it called? Death proof. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I know them. Planet Terror is the one with Rose McGowan with a gun leg. [00:02:00] Speaker C: Machine gun leg, yeah. [00:02:03] Speaker B: It was a double bill, wasn't it? [00:02:05] Speaker C: Both these films in America, they were a double bill. They were sold separately over here. But in America, you brought one ticket. And I'm not sure which order they were in. I think it was Planet terror and then death proof. But in the middle they showed five mock trailers for films that didn't exist. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Nice. [00:02:23] Speaker C: And the mock trailers were machete, which went on to exist with a shotgun, which went on to exist, which exists, which is what we've watched. And then two films called don't and werewolf women of the SS. [00:02:45] Speaker B: All right, I hope these both get made. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Does seem likely, considering they've made three of them. [00:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that sounds really cool. That's awesome. [00:03:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't know that about the fake trailers then becoming films. [00:03:07] Speaker C: The actual fake trailer to this does show a couple of key points that happen in this film. So it doesn't follow the exact same story, but you can tell that they've took some inspiration from that. But the fake trailer is done in a way that makes it appear like an 80s pirate sort of film. And it steals the music from Creepshow. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Cool getting onto the film, then. It's directed by Eli Roth, which I know does quite a bit of things. I think he produces halted museum as well, which is an entertaining watch. Even if I don't believe the whole ghost story stuff, because I don't believe in that kind of thing, personally. But I thought it was really good. Like, I started off like, oh, look, it's just going to be like a bit of a stampede and stuff. At the beginning, I didn't think it would be quite as brutal as what it was when it started. [00:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I expected time, that's why I. [00:04:15] Speaker A: Expected, oh, maybe a couple of people will get trampled and that'll be the worst of it. But you had someone slicing their throat open, still trying to get his bloody waffle iron. You did have the security guard getting completely squashed by people trampling over him and under a door. And then you had the wife of the one guy who got smashed in the face with a trolley and then scowl. It was just like, wow. And obviously the one of the main characters who broke his arm. It was a really interesting. Not interesting star because you knew something was going to go. But I didn't think it would be as brutal as it was. [00:04:58] Speaker C: No, definitely. Like when the woman's scalp is pulled across the floor and people are just carrying on shopping and it does show craziness. [00:05:09] Speaker B: The thing is, though, it was only until the end, when I read the credits, I saw it was done by Eli Roth and then it all made sense to me because if you've watched the hostel franchise, you know exactly what you're in for. So it was more a shock factor. And I was like, oh, God, this reminds me of something. Oh, okay. It's made by the same people who did hostel, which was very graphic as well, but really, I think, very creatively done. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I think obviously it's taking the piss of Black Friday, clearly, with what went on, because obviously stuff has happened at Black Friday, but I don't think it's ever gone quite to those lengths. [00:05:45] Speaker B: No, apparently it is vicious in America, like you said, not to this point, but people have got hurt. Yeah. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Brilliant start to the film, obviously. Then people start getting. It's a year later, plans to still go ahead to open the store where all this stuff happened the year before, which is shocking. Like as in opening for Black Friday again, which is only a recent thing that uk been doing in the last, like five or so. Years, something like that. Maybe a bit longer, but. [00:06:26] Speaker B: It'S not as popular, that's for sure. America, it's a day you book off of work to indulge UK. We're just like, eh, order something off Amazon and that's it. [00:06:37] Speaker A: Yes, pretty much. I remember watching a news report that was online from somewhere. It's like, oh, it's going to be mad. It's going to be crazy when they open these stores at 06:00 and then two customers walked in. [00:06:53] Speaker C: I remember one like that. [00:06:56] Speaker A: It was in England. It was. It wasn't in Wales. So I saw like a re upload of it or something, like one where. [00:07:05] Speaker C: It was one guy and they just went, and, what are you here for? And he like, goes, I don't know. [00:07:12] Speaker A: Something might be cheap, something that they want as well. Probably not. A lot of people say don't buy things on Black Friday because they make them out of cheaper parts, which is why they do them cheaper. [00:07:27] Speaker C: I think it's like old stock, like every year new tellies come out and I think, yeah, stuff in Black Friday is cheap, but it's like last year or the year before's model that they want out the warehouse to make room for something new. So you're doing them as much a favor as they're doing you. Really. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Yeah, they're still making a profit. Yeah. The main thing in it, it started off with, after all this, they're going to do a commercial for the store for the Black Friday sale and obviously the house was ransacked and an axe was missing. I was like, oh, I wonder if we'll see that axe again. [00:08:14] Speaker B: Yes. It was such a parody of every horror film you've seen. But I loved it. It was just very witty at times, actually. But they were let you know that they're taking the piss through the whole film. [00:08:28] Speaker A: Yeah. I think the simple over the topness kind of gave that away. It is kind of comedic in many, many ways, like just satirizing so much other horror films. [00:08:46] Speaker C: Yeah. It reminded me a lot of Halloween scream. And I know what you did last summer. They're the ones it really. [00:08:54] Speaker A: Yeah, well, scream, if I remember correctly, was kind of like a piss take of horror films anyway, wasn't it? [00:09:00] Speaker C: Yeah, it was wes craven sort of looking at every horror that had been out and sort of taking the p out of them and showing how they weren't that relevant nowadays. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And then it kicked off a massive franchise. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah, shockingly. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, not long after that one scene where the axe is missing. Oh, look the theft axe is missing, blah, blah, blah. It moves on to people in a shop, and you see, like, a person in a mask. So you're like, right, well, that's obviously what the killer is going to look like. If you hadn't seen the promotional posters or anything. That's what it is. It's a pilgrim looking guy. And then it cuts to the night after they've all left the shops and stuff. And the crazy woman who's, like, shouting and screaming on the Black Friday the year before is in the shop on her own in the cafe. And then the crazy killer guy. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Yeah, the crazy lady was my favorite person in this whole film. Everyone was fucking impression, if you know what I mean. No, they were all dicks. But she got the best death, though. You got to admit, she made an impression. You remembered her when you see her again a year later. And then when she dies, you're like, wow, they really fought this through, how they want her to suffer. [00:10:30] Speaker A: Yeah, she suffered with her face being stuck to a fridge and door or freezer door, and then half her skin gets ripped off her face and her hand. And then the death was great, though. I did laugh. I pissed myself laughing when she's, like, climbing into a big, massive wheelie bin, like an industrial size wheelie bin, and she's climbing into it and the car slams it, the lid claws is done. She gets cut in half. I laughed. Especially when she gets bottom half is, like, stuck on top of fucking, like a star or something. Just plop there, resting, chilling away, while the other half underneath the murderers hide out. [00:11:19] Speaker B: But I really like that. [00:11:23] Speaker A: Because I just thought the death was great. [00:11:28] Speaker B: The thing is, like I mentioned before, they're really creative, though. They've kept it in line with the whole Thanksgiving thing. Obviously, we will explain more the deaths later on, but with her, because she's running away and all. Oh, my God. When they stick the head to the fridge, I was like, she's not getting away lightly. He's going to make her suffer. And there's a bit where you think she's almost going to escape. It's like, nah, you're dead, mate. [00:12:00] Speaker A: Yeah. What do you think about that mood? Do you think it was a good one? I do. [00:12:07] Speaker C: I loved the stuck to the freezer by the face thing. That was brilliant. I really liked that. And I did like the fact she pulled herself off and she did that thing where you start screaming at the tv. Because when she went in that room and was locked in, and then she comes to let us up. Bitch. Why are you letting yourself out? Just fucking barricade that door and stay in there till morning. [00:12:32] Speaker B: I was half thinking that too, but you know that the killer was probably going to break in somehow or trick her out. But it was like, how are you going to die? You're going to die, lady. But how? [00:12:42] Speaker A: You did have an axe. You could have just cut the door down. [00:12:45] Speaker C: Yeah, that's true. [00:12:47] Speaker A: But one thing I liked is when she tried to use a phone and her hands all fucked so she can't touch the screen properly to use it. And then she's trying to use facial recognition on her phone and it's just like not working because her face is half gone. And that's why it's easier to have an old phone that has buttons instead of a touch screen. [00:13:12] Speaker B: Yeah, the details were really fought out, like how screwed she was going to be. Yeah. At times like this we really needed one of those Nokia phones. [00:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah, a nice old Nokia 33 30 or whatever they were called. I can't remember. 33 ten somewhere. [00:13:31] Speaker B: A popular one with the different covers. Yes. [00:13:34] Speaker A: I haven't had one of them since I was young, like a teenager. [00:13:39] Speaker C: I think it was my second ever phone. [00:13:42] Speaker A: I think before I had one of them I had a flip phone. Do you like the one in the Matrix? I had one of them. [00:13:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:13:49] Speaker A: Because I was fucking cool, man. [00:13:51] Speaker B: I think. [00:13:54] Speaker A: I can't remember what it was. [00:13:57] Speaker B: I think it was the razor. I think my brother did the exact same thing for that exact same reason. Matrix. That's it. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Got to be cool, man. Maybe. Obviously, there's obviously exposition between things and you're learning about stuff, but the main thing about these films, obviously, is the kills. And the second kill was also. It made me laugh. The kill wasn't really gruesome or anything. The guy got stabbed. I can't remember if much else happened to him other than getting stabbed. The security guard, because obviously the killer is targeting people who he decided were the main issues with the incident that happened on the original Black Friday. And that was her because she was fucking crazy. Two kids from a different school, which were also really annoying the security guard because he ran away. [00:15:09] Speaker C: He ran, yeah. [00:15:10] Speaker A: And then obviously the main group of kids because they got in early and everyone flipped out because of that. One thing I will say about this film is the amount of swearing in it literally. Like the. The security guards going like, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. And like at the start they're just shouting and swearing. Fuck you, you cocksuck. Shit like that. I don't care. I just thought it was funny. They swear worse than I do. But, like, the security guard when he died, I remember him just being, like, stabbed in the chest from underneath with a turkey carver, I think. And then obviously, they cut his head off to put around the table for the Thanksgiving Day feast, so to speak. But what I really liked about that entire thing was after the security guard is killed, the guy feeds the cat and then gives a cat a little stroke. And it's like, see, he's clearly not a bad guy. He's feed the cat. [00:16:24] Speaker B: It shows a shirt of humanity. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I just thought it was funny. It's like he just murdered someone. He's about to leave. He turns around, sees a cat and goes, actually, I'll feed the cat because the cat's not going to have any food. It's great. Did any of you predict who the killer would be? [00:16:44] Speaker B: No, I didn't. You get red herrings in a film. And I really thought it was the girl's new boyfriend. I really thought it was him. And I thought, even if it's not him, he's an accomplice. But no, that completely threw me off. He was just creepy. [00:17:08] Speaker A: I thought he would have been an accomplice. Or the two. The boyfriend and the ex boyfriend weren't together for a while, but I did earlier on in the film say who the killer was and was right. But then I changed my mind completely. I thought it was two people. The only reason why I thought it was certain people as well is because the killer was quite short. [00:17:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Which is why I thought, well, it can't be the new boyfriend because he is taller than everyone else there, whereas the killer is shorter than most of the women. [00:17:39] Speaker C: I thought it was the ex boyfriend because I thought it was going to be a thing where his arm was fucked up so he couldn't play baseball anymore. So be the motivation. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah. And it kind of implies that when one of the scenes later in the film, like a load of baseballs get hit over and you're like, see, it's implying it's him. [00:18:00] Speaker B: Again, the red herrings, they were really clever about it because he disappears off the scene for a long time. And then there was the ex manager of the store who has his own vendetta because his wife gets killed in the stampede. But you don't see him again for, like, what, three quarters of the film? And then he appears and it's like, nah, it's not going to be this guy. No, it's too obvious. [00:18:27] Speaker A: Again, for me, the height is the thing that gave. It was the main thing for me, I said to the Mrs. Because we watched it together, said, it's clearly someone who's short. And there was a few short people, so it was obviously one of them said, it's either a short man or a short woman, but it's someone short. That was my thoughts on who the Moyudora was. I'm just glad I clocked there and then changed my mind. I was like, that can't be. It's got to be one of these other people. And I was right originally, but then it don't count because I got it wrong by the end. So that's on me and the Mrs. Poisoning. My thoughts going, it's not the killer. This person is. I'm joking. One thing that I liked was the parade scene. Like the whole someone just randomly gets their head cut off, and then a big part of like a parade float goes into the back of a driver's head and out through their face, and their face goes all weird looking. But I don't know how I feel about it. Is the killer has a specific dress code in this film? Yeah, they'd always dressed as that pilgrim person, but in the murder scene, in that fucking big clusterfuck of death, they dressed up as something else. And I was like, that goes against the rules of the genre. Changing the look for one Moida scene. [00:20:08] Speaker C: Straight away. And I went, did you see that clown? To my Mrs. I went, he was fucking creepy. Yeah, it was a creepy something to do with it. Then they should make him a villain. And then by the time I'd finished saying it, he was killing. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely creepy. It's kind of like you've wore a specific outfit, you fucker. You can't put on a clown costume. All of a sudden that's like ghostfaced in scream, going around murdering people as gothfaced. And then halfway through movie, nah, I'm going to dress up as Popeye. Spooky Popeye. [00:20:47] Speaker C: It was a good move that it took you by surprise, that I think sometimes with these horror films, you've got to break a few rules, because if you follow all the sort of convictions. [00:20:58] Speaker A: And rules and the tropes of the genre. [00:21:00] Speaker C: Yeah, you become too predictable. [00:21:04] Speaker A: When you had a super creepy clown, it kind of implies that there's a super creepy clown for a reason. Then again, a lot of people will think whatever the clown looks like, it's going to be creepy. [00:21:17] Speaker C: Yeah, it's amazing how many people are scared of clowns really into. Probably got Stephen King to blame for. [00:21:27] Speaker B: I mean, we got things that they do kind of reinforce that little fear. But I mean, I'm not scared of clowns. I'm just saying I see where they're coming from. They've got makeup on. You don't really know what's going on. And they throw their voices. It can be quite jarring. [00:21:50] Speaker A: I'm trying to think of horror films, but I think there's killer clowns from outer space. [00:21:56] Speaker C: Yeah, it. [00:21:58] Speaker A: And then there's clownhouse. Clownhouse I'm not familiar with. And then there's the more recent ones. Terrifier. [00:22:06] Speaker C: Clown. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I haven't seen that. I need to watch that. [00:22:16] Speaker B: That is also very gory and a lot of swearing. So you might like that quite a bit. [00:22:22] Speaker A: Cool plan. [00:22:23] Speaker C: Ass was by that guy that did jeepers creepers. [00:22:28] Speaker B: I remember Jeepers Creepers. [00:22:31] Speaker C: It's a shit old film and most of it is young lads running around in their underpants. And I don't know if you know this, but the guy that directed Jeepers Creepers, who directed Clownhouse is a convicted. [00:22:50] Speaker B: That. [00:22:50] Speaker A: I didn't know that. [00:22:53] Speaker C: So if you want to watch anything of his pirate it, because it's morally right as in my opinion. [00:22:57] Speaker A: I agree. [00:22:58] Speaker B: Yeah. He doesn't deserve money. Yeah, agreed. [00:23:01] Speaker C: He made a film for Disney as well called Powder about a child with supernatural powers or something. Yeah, that was after he was convicted. [00:23:14] Speaker A: After he was convicted. Yeah. [00:23:18] Speaker C: He was convicted for abusing one of the lads that was in Clownhouse. And when Powder came out, the lad from Clownhouse and his family turned up at the premiere and picketed it and stuff. But yeah, it seems to really have gone underground and people don't seem to realize or want to realize that he's a convicted pedophile. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that's wrong. I didn't even know that. [00:23:50] Speaker B: I don't think he's got much of a career. I don't think he's got much of a career, to be fair. Powder, I just watched by chance many years ago on a recommendation and it was fantastic. But again, I never paid attention to who did the film or anything. And jeepus creepers, like I said, I watch any type of horror film and Jeepus Creepers isn't exactly the best film in the world. There were just some good aspects of it. [00:24:13] Speaker A: But yeah, it's just a shame that someone, it's Ray. I remember the name of the directors of films and so on and so forth. I've been paying more attention with this now doing the podcast because I've started putting the information in the YouTube videos for the layout of the podcast. But generally speaking, I forget a lot of the directors and a lot of actors names. I forget, and so on and so forth, because I got an awful memory just the way I am. [00:24:49] Speaker C: It took me the whole five minutes of talking about this for his name to suddenly come back into my head. [00:24:57] Speaker A: Right. This is one of my favorite bits of the film. Right? We're getting close to the end, right? Obviously there's a couple of more murders we should talk about. Like the thing is, the one guy gets killed, right? I was going to speak about something else that I really enjoyed, but the guy from the other school who was like a massive dickhead, he gets killed by having his neck broken. There was nothing particularly interesting about that. What was the fun bit was where the cheerleader was like bouncing up and down on a trampoline. The guy just sticks knives up through the fucking bottom of it. Oh yeah, that was funny. I did laugh at that. I was a little disappointed. I was hoping to see some nudity from some other people in there. [00:25:47] Speaker C: That is actually in the grindhouse trailer. Is it different actors? [00:25:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:54] Speaker C: Do you know what a death splits is? Where they jump up and spread the legs totally apart? [00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:00] Speaker C: In the trailer she does one of them and the knife goes in the hoohah. [00:26:07] Speaker A: Yay. [00:26:08] Speaker C: So this was tamer? No, it goes in a side in her head or something in this, but it's clearly definitely in the hoohah. In the grindhouse trailer. [00:26:22] Speaker A: Shit. Well, at least she got it, but didn't get that happen to her. Even though it's technically the same person. [00:26:28] Speaker C: But not they was in the grindhouse trailer. Her boobies are out as well. [00:26:34] Speaker A: All right, fair enough. [00:26:35] Speaker C: Yeah. Mellowing it down a bit. [00:26:39] Speaker A: Fair enough. It's violent enough. We don't need to see boobies as well. Or do we? Who knows? [00:26:48] Speaker C: It tends to be like a horror staple, doesn't it? That whether you need boobies or not will provide some boobies. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Just because I don't think it's as common as it used to be, though. Is it like eighty s? Ninety s? They'd give pale in there. [00:27:01] Speaker C: Yeah, it's been left behind a little bit. [00:27:06] Speaker B: It needs to be in a slasher movie. Anything else? Not so much. [00:27:14] Speaker A: It's usually like, oh yeah, people will have sex and then die immediately after or during that kind of thing. And the virgin girl will survive somehow because virginity is sacred. I don't fucking know. [00:27:30] Speaker C: Yeah, that's very Friday the 13th sort of territory in it. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:35] Speaker C: The ones that have gone off to smoke pot, die. The ones who are having premarital sex, die. The ones that have disobeyed their parents, die. And the good one that does everything they're told is the one that you'll know will make it to the sort of last part of the film. Yeah. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Obviously all the people are at one point caught or killed and they're all round up around the table and just before they're all rounded up, the mother in law of the main character is captured and then she's basted. [00:28:18] Speaker C: I love that. [00:28:19] Speaker A: And seasoned with salt and pepper and some favorite kill lords of stuffed piranha to season her up. And then she manages to escape briefly and then she gets caught again and then the guy just like, oh, well, she's already seasoned and basted and chucks her in a giant dove and cooks her. The best thing about it is. [00:28:46] Speaker B: He. [00:28:47] Speaker A: Puts stuff on the feet to make it look like those turkey weird papery things that people from turkeys and then ties her in a position so she's like a turkey and sticks it on the table like, oh, look, she's cooked for everyone. No, she's been cooking all day. [00:29:03] Speaker C: The best bet is he said earlier, didn't he, the sheriff, something about your mum would make a fantastic dinner. [00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that was great. And she did. I liked it when he popped today because, like, you had people spoon while they were. And obviously one of the girls was kept in a fridge and they popped a cork screw into them and it literally made the pop of the cork coming out when they popped it out of her and drained her some blood and said, oh, you might want to let that sell for a bit because obviously they were doing Thanksgiving dinner, but using the people as the drinks and the food. You know what I mean? [00:30:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:02] Speaker A: I genuinely thought that was brilliant. Like, yeah, I get they were cooking. I get that. He was cooking her. I got that. But I expected her to be flat on the table or something. I did not expect him to bring her out as if she were a turkey. [00:30:22] Speaker C: Yeah. It's just a great visual into it. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Literally. Legs tucked up, tied. Fucking brilliant. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Well, it does make sense because once you cook something, it goes hard. So. Yeah, to having to tie up her legs and all that. He committed. He committed to this dinner hard. [00:30:43] Speaker A: He did, yeah. And I liked how you cut a piece of off. It's like, oh, go on, have some, have some. She'd been cooking all day. Eat some. Terror. Good cooking tastes and shit like that. And obviously he didn't eat her, but that was great. The final scenes are your typical kind of trophy, in the sense of they figure out who the killer was. It turns out it wasn't the killer. The main character worked out who the killer was and then they had to escape. But I don't know if it's implied that he survived or not at the end. Only because when they say no one would survive from that one of the fire, it was focused on one of the particular firemen walking out with a mask on where you couldn't see them. [00:31:43] Speaker C: Yeah, we said, that's got to be him. [00:31:46] Speaker A: But obviously you don't see anything there, so who knows? [00:31:52] Speaker B: The way I see it, if there's no body, they haven't been found. [00:31:58] Speaker A: A person needs to cook at a certain temperature to get rid of the bones. And I don't think that fire was hot enough. Not that I'm an arson specialist. What do you think of the film overall, then? Because honestly, I really enjoyed myself with it. I thought it was over the top, daft fun. [00:32:18] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, definitely. If you like really bloody creative stuff, you'll like it. It made me think of things like Dust till dawn, but then also it was a daft diversion of sort of Halloween. [00:32:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it did take things from other films, I guess, but it kind of either ramped up the gore to silly amounts or it just really took the piss. But in a subtle way. It didn't just outright be like, ha, look at this. This is like, from something else, but funnier. It's kind of more subtly, but still over the top so you get a bit of a laugh out of it at the same time. [00:33:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Like I said, it was kind of a really one off me jumping into this film. But I think it's a really good example of not using a class actors and achieving a fantastic film just by really good ideas and script. I think I only knew maybe two of the actors in the film. The guy who ended up being the killer and then the man who owns the actual company, which is doing the Black Friday sales. Yeah, a lot of great ideas. [00:33:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:50] Speaker C: The sheriff's Patrick Dempsey, isn't it? And I'm pretty sure that he worked for well under his usual fee because he wanted to be in a horror film. [00:34:01] Speaker A: All right. [00:34:02] Speaker C: Which kudos to him if you've ever seen. But there's an Arnold Schwarzenegger film called Maggie that's about his daughter being bit and turning into a zombie. And apparently he did that for all because he wanted to do a type of film that. Because basically all of that film is about him talking to his daughter before she changes. And it's like sentimental in a way. And he just wanted to do something that wasn't busting through doors with oozes. And I just love when actors think beyond the money. They think about their legacy. [00:34:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, let's be real. Like, for Patrick Dempsey, he's typecast as kind of the romantic person. So yeah, you're right. Offering to do it for a low fee is the only way he could kind of get out of being typecast. And to be honest, like I said, I didn't expect him to be the killer. So that was a pleasant surprise. And when you find out his reasons, that really shocked me. When you find out the twist of I don't want to spoil, but yeah, the main reason why he wants revenge on everyone, I was like, wow, where did that come from? Okay, really good job. [00:35:27] Speaker C: Well, you'd hire him for a horror film after this one, wouldn't you? You won't worry about it again. [00:35:33] Speaker B: 100%. He's shown his skill, did a fantastic job, and you didn't need a massive budget. And I think that's another thing that Eli Roth did really well with. When he did the hostel franchise. They all looked very low budget and they succeeded fantastically because of their ending. I'm thinking there might be a thanksgiving too, but I don't know, it would be nice. But again, I wouldn't push for it. I just thought this was a complete film. I watched it and was like, this was perfect. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I would agree. I don't think it needs a sequel. They could do one, I guess, but you kind of don't need it. There's no need. And maybe they'll just do the next two films. I don't know who directed the other two films. I think it was in machete. I can't remember. I'm awful. Like we said, we remembering people. But I think that basically I'm hoping that the other two films might get made because it sounds like they making some good films from the fake trailers. [00:36:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:48] Speaker A: But who knows? I guess we'll see. Would you recommend this film, guys, before we jump off? [00:36:55] Speaker C: Oh, definitely, yes. [00:36:58] Speaker A: I also would recommend this film. [00:37:01] Speaker C: I always like to watch things in double feature. If you've got the time, watch two films. There's actually a film starring Bruce Campbell called Black Friday. So what? And then this I think would make a good sort of Black Friday. Frank's giving weekend double feature. [00:37:27] Speaker A: Guess I'll be watching Black Friday soon. Then you can take part as well if you want. Prinny. Got to watch Bruce Campbell film. [00:37:40] Speaker B: I know that's not a chore. That's a pleasure. [00:37:46] Speaker A: Is there anything you would like to plug Prini before we jet off? [00:37:55] Speaker B: No. Well, if you want to know more about my wacky adventures in life, feel free to follow me. I am active on Slash. It's called X now, but my tag is at then it's hades because doom Printy was already taken. You can also find me on Twitch as doomed, underscore printy. And then I've got a link tree to my YouTube and all that, which is on my Twitter. So yeah, if you want to talk about horror movies, JrPGs, hit me up. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Yourself. Kerr, you got anything you would like to hug? [00:38:39] Speaker C: Well, I'm on Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it. And Blue sky and Mastodon and YouTube all as Kernine thousand. And if you're into horror like this, I've got something like 160 od horror based videos on YouTube. [00:38:56] Speaker A: Those are reviews and things, aren't they? Not actual horror movies yourself. [00:39:02] Speaker C: Must be horror reviews. There's some things about the history of tales from the crypt and stuff like that as well. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Oh, nice. Tales from the crypt is ace. [00:39:12] Speaker C: Yeah, I love it. [00:39:13] Speaker A: Used to like tales from the Crypt and Tales from the Crypt keeper, which was the cartoon. [00:39:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:22] Speaker A: I think that is going to be us then. Thank you guys for taking part. Thank you everyone who has listened. We'll be back in a fortnight with another film. I'm not sure where that's going to be, but yeah, thank you and see you again soon. Bye bye. Bye, ladies. [00:39:38] Speaker B: Dude. [00:39:56] Speaker C: Now is that any way to thank Kathleen? She's been cooking all day.

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