Speak No Evil!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:06] Speaker B: Welcome to the Pugsley Crew Reviews Podcast, where we talk about all manner of films, whether they're good, bad or, well, anything in between, really. We'll watch them and give you our opinions. Today we are joined again by Kur9000. How you doing, Kerr? [00:00:22] Speaker A: I'm all right, Jeff. How are you doing? [00:00:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm doing good. You've been playing any games recently? Watching any films? [00:00:29] Speaker A: Well, game wise, I've just finished. I say finished because I saw the credits. Donkey Kong Bonanza. [00:00:37] Speaker B: I need the finisher. I need to get back to it. It's enjoyable. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it's a good game. I mean, I didn't play it at first because I got it at the same time as I got Shadow Labyrinth, the Weird Pac Man, Metroidvania. [00:00:49] Speaker B: I need to get back to that, too. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Well, I got dead far into that and then it's a bloody hard game. So I sort of segued across to something that wasn't going to make me want sort of smash my new system up. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. [00:01:07] Speaker A: And they've actually released patches now to make it easier because apparently everyone's been struggling and complaining. [00:01:14] Speaker B: All right, I'll have to get to it. Not that I was struggling with it because I was fairly early on in, but I just need to get back to it because it's seems pretty cool. Pac Man. [00:01:25] Speaker A: You know, it'd be a lot better for you now because one fault is if you sat your gate system down on sleep, it kept recording that you were playing game time. So your clock isn't the truth. Our mind says about 60 hours, because I think I fell asleep one night with it on standby and it obviously recorded all that time and playtime. But then, yeah, there's other stuff like where items were more expensive and they've reduced the price now. There was some glitches that are gone. There were some bits that were very tight for time where they've added 20 seconds to make it manageable. So apparently it cuts down a lot of frustration. [00:02:08] Speaker B: That's good. That is good, because obviously you want it to be, you know, an enjoyable experience. Not one. Yeah. Anywho, today we're gonna be talking about a film with James McAvoy in it called Speak no Evil. I knew very little of this film. I remember when I went to the cinema a few years ago, I actually think I saw trailers for it and that was about it, but I didn't really pay attention to it. The only thing I thought is, is when they showed the Kid saying he's got something wrong with his tongue. I was like, yeah, no, they've cut his tongue out. There's no way he's got a deformed tongue. They've done that. And it turns out they did spoilers from the beginning. But, yeah, as we were. Last week, we were talking. We mentioned that this week we're going to be talking about a film that has the actor who played Charles Xavier in it. This. This was the film. Because last week we did a film which had the guy who played Magneto in it. The younger ones, not the older ones, obviously. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I think Anything with James McAvoy is worth a watch because he just is a hell of an actor. [00:03:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I found him really good in that. [00:03:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Most part he plays like pretty straight, like normal, and then he has like these little off moments and then at the end he just goes full on Psycho. It's great. Yeah, well done. [00:03:45] Speaker A: He's. He's very good at making you, like on edge at like, is he. Is he joking or is he being sinister or. And that really works for this. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially with the type of film there is and obviously how he turns out at the end. [00:04:02] Speaker A: This is a remake of a Danish film which only came out in 2022. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah. When I was looking online for just information for this film specifically, just so I can put the information on the overlay, I noticed there was a speaking Speak no evil from 2022. And I was like, ah, right, so this is a remake, is it? But I know nothing of. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that was like an award winning show. A film that was shown at the Sundance Festival and stuff. Danish actors. But it's all in English. You can watch it. [00:04:36] Speaker B: All right. [00:04:38] Speaker A: But typical Hollywood, you know, or we can do it and have it, you know, in normal. Well, I was going to say English, English, American, whatever you want to say, with actors people will know of and we'll make more money with it. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Yeah. That is basically it, isn't it? [00:04:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Although it does totally flip the ending. [00:04:57] Speaker B: All right, okay. I'm guessing in the end in the. The family gets killed then in the original, and you get away with her in this. [00:05:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's quite interesting that the director of this one decided he'd change it because when he changed it to British and American families, because in the original, I think it was like Dutch and Danish. [00:05:20] Speaker B: Right. [00:05:21] Speaker A: The attitude was like, well, I can't remember, is it the Dutch or the Danish are a placid people. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Sort of not fight back. Whereas Americans are like, you might kill Me, but I'm gonna go down swinging. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:37] Speaker A: So that was sort of part of the idea of changing the fact that Fight back and live. [00:05:45] Speaker B: That's interesting. [00:05:47] Speaker A: But it's all based off the fact that. And I'm going to butcher his name bit. Christian Cafdrup, who was the guy that came up with it? He'd met a Dutch couple on holiday with his wife. And although both of the couples got. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Along. [00:06:04] Speaker A: He received an invitation to go across and see this couple. And he sort of toyed with it in his mind and thought, do I go? Do I not go? And then he came up with this like nightmare scenario worst case thing. Well, whatever went. And they were twisted and they were out to kill me. And then the original film came from that idea. [00:06:22] Speaker B: That's mad. That's brilliant. [00:06:25] Speaker A: I think that's where some of the best horror comes from. It's from real life horror. Things that actually you've thought about and scare you. [00:06:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:35] Speaker A: You know, it's like Body Snatcher stuff. What if the people you know weren't the people you know and you couldn't tell and. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I gather. I understand it all. It's like. It's like scary things like it and stuff, you know, it's not. Things like that don't happen. It's not gonna happen. Yeah. You could have a killer clown, but it's not going to be the way it is with a scary bloody monster thing and that sort of thing. But where it's like, oh, this really nice family that invite you around to their house turns out to be some sort of insane people who want to kill you and steal your child. That can happen. That probably has happened. [00:07:14] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Probably. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, we watched a film before, didn't we? Where. I can't remember where it was, but it was like a woman who was kidnapping children and one of them escaped. [00:07:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:35] Speaker B: That. That was the similar kind of thing, wasn't this? But though some. Something that could happen. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Was that the one that had Sylvester McCoy from Doctor who in it? [00:07:46] Speaker B: No, that was the one where they broke into. Sylvester McCoy was in the one where he broke into his house and then he turned out to be psychotic. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it was similar in that. In that it's somebody that comes across as nice. Oh, strangely, Sylvester McCoy said he was a doctor in that, didn't he? Yeah, and then he was a nutter and this guy claims to be a doctor, so there is a correlation there. [00:08:09] Speaker B: You can't trust doctors, man. He might be secret killers. I did like it, though. It's like. Like, oh, I'm glad we got a doctor in the house. Later on in the film, he's like, doctor, I'm going to talk to you. And he's like, you told me you were a doctor. He's like, did I? I'm not a doctor. And then he's like, ah, we already kidding your faces. But he isn't a doctor, he's just a psychopath. [00:08:38] Speaker A: Apparently, McAvoy hadn't watched the original and he decided that he wouldn't watch it until he'd made this because he didn't want to basically just copycat the. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:48] Speaker A: Other one. But he did decide that he was going to model what he describes as the toxic masculinity of his character on a real life person. Who do you think? [00:09:02] Speaker B: Oh, a guy. What's his name? I can't remember his name. So. Xboxer. [00:09:09] Speaker A: I think he modeled it on Andrew Tate. [00:09:14] Speaker B: That's the. I think he's his boxer and he. Andrew T. I thought it might be. I don't blame him. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Now you can see it. And I do think this one, where they said that the other one was based on different countries, I think this one, like, compares the two men a lot. It is like, James McAvoy is this alpha male who's obsessed with taking what you want and having it, and the other guy is, like, very placid, where he'll let himself be walked all over just to not have confrontation. Because there's a point at the end where McAvoy's character, they go like, oh, you know, why are you doing this to us? It goes. Because you let me. [00:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah. That is. [00:10:05] Speaker A: The kind of do, don't they? They keep. They keep overstepping the bounds and then going. And they're like, oh, I leave it. And he's like, oh, we're sorry, we're sorry. And then because they don't want the confrontation. Well, more him than her, actually. [00:10:18] Speaker B: Yeah. The wife doesn't give a fuck. [00:10:20] Speaker A: No, they back up and. And they stay and they stay and they back up. They, like, give up ground and they. It is like there's a story here in that when pushed to the wall, there's a fucking point where you've got to stand up for your own morals and your own ideal and your right to be who you are and that you can't just always, like, defer and. [00:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm looking at my notes now because I forgot to look at them. Right. And one of the first things I've wrote here is about back, back a Few years ago, like, one of the things they talk about in the film, early. Early in the film when they're, like, on about the Danish people, I think, like, are they boring talking about food all the time? I think it was Danish. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:11:09] Speaker B: And he's like, oh, we talked about whether you scrunch or you fold. And we're wondering if you fold, if your finger might go through and get a little bit of poop on her or something. But I was thinking that, like, on the Internet, a few years back, at least on Jiake, people were talking about scrunching and folding. I'm pretty sure there was polls online from, like, Andrex about that sort of thing. I think it was Andrex. But Juice Crunch or Fold? [00:11:36] Speaker A: Well, definitely scrunch. [00:11:39] Speaker B: Both. You gotta do both. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Some multifaceted approach. Is it? Scrunch, fold, scrunch. [00:11:51] Speaker B: It was dafto. One of the things, when they left, they could have just left and gone and they would have been perfectly fine. But because of the stupid bunny rabbit, they went back. It's like that. Because they could clearly see there was something up, like after a while. And they went. And they're like, no, we're done, we're done. And then they went, oh, we need to get her a bunny. Nope. [00:12:14] Speaker A: I mean, you should have got the police involved. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Because they'd already seen enough where, you know, out of contact with the police and social services. For the lad's sake. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:12:29] Speaker A: And by the way, while you're checking that out, can you get my daughter's bunny, please? [00:12:35] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Buy another one and roll it through the dirt a bit and, you know, age it. [00:12:46] Speaker B: The kids and they silly teddies. I was. What? There was one scene, though. It's like they're having a conversation, the wife and the husband, and then you just see, like, someone watching through the door. The window in the door. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker B: And I was like, oh, that's kind of creepy because obviously they're listening on the conversations to find out what's going on and shit. I think it was when they were arguing about her having, like, some guy's dick on her phone or something. [00:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:15] Speaker B: That'S what it was. [00:13:18] Speaker A: There's a lot of, like, moral conversations this brings up. [00:13:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Like the whole aspect of she's cheated online or via phone or whatever. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:34] Speaker A: But she blames him for being angry and distant first. And it's like chicken in the egg. Is it his fault? Her fault? Both faults. [00:13:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:48] Speaker A: I was going to say there's a case to be made each way Isn't there? It's like this film's version of the Russ and Rachel split. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:59] Speaker A: I did think at the end when he said, you're not being truthful, and she started saying all the stuff about, we're him, we're going to split up and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I wonder whether she really had come up to that conclusion and whether she would do that when they got back or was that some. She was pulling to sound genuine to, you know, back away with, you know. [00:14:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Funny though, one of the things they say is like, he's like, oh, don't know. My family's like, you don't even love your family. If you did love your family, you would left this bastard drum with his parents because he threw. Like, they threw the kid in the little pond, didn't they? And instead of just driving off, he jumped out of the car to go rescue him. Which obviously in turn meant all of them were captured. [00:14:45] Speaker A: I mean, that's about the only truly heroic thing he really does. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:50] Speaker A: The woman's the hero. She's the one that's like bleach spraying everyone in the face and. [00:14:55] Speaker B: Exactly. She's the one who does all I actually wrote in my notes. The wife beat. The wife, Phoebe kicking ass. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Like, even like the other woman, the psycho woman. It's like her who deals with her by smashing her off a roof and then she falls to her death and Diesel. Which is why she falls to her death. She falls to her death and dies. She falls to a death and dies. That's. That's exactly what I'm going with. But I also liked it when the other guy turned up, though. And it's like, why are you. Forgot to play with your food? You like my mum's cat? [00:15:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:15:30] Speaker B: It's like, what the. It's like, I, you know, I'm down with doing this stuff, but you need to stop playing with your food and just get it off with all the time. And he should have. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I mean, I think the bit where the little lad takes the girl down into the. That's assume I call it a basement. But, you know, under that trap door. [00:15:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:49] Speaker A: And he starts showing her the photos and pointing how the kid changes in each photo. So clearly they're like killing the mum and dad. Taking the kid. [00:15:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:59] Speaker A: In the kid they've got cutting that new kid's tongue out and passing it along down the line. And then he, like, points to him in a photo and then points to her and like, shows the tongue Cut. And I'm like, if you were that girl, you'd have just shit your pants. Yeah, that is terrifying. He's basically telling you you're about to see me get killed and get your tongue cut out if you don't get the fuck out of dodge right now. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. The one thing I didn't understand was the naught, really. Because he wrote her a naught, but he didn't really. And that you couldn't understand the writing and I don't know why. Cuz the kid is on. Exactly. Young, you would have thought they would have been able to read and write me. [00:16:44] Speaker A: I think it, it was in a foreign language. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Ah, that's what it could be. Yeah. [00:16:50] Speaker A: I think it, it, it. Because I think that kid is still supposed to be like Danish or something. You know, he's a previous kid they've met. And the back of the, you know, when he goes in that drawer and it's got all the. There's one watch the kid turns over and strokes and looks at, and I think that's his dad's watch. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:10] Speaker A: Because the back of that watch is inscribed in foreign writing. [00:17:13] Speaker B: So I think where it is then. [00:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that was the clue that that kid is Dutch or Danish or whatever, you know, Makes more sense. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Makes more sense than our understanding. [00:17:28] Speaker A: I mean, in a way, they could have made this a sequel to the last one if they tried a little bit. Because if the 2022 version, the bad people get away with it, they could have started the circle again. You know what I mean? It's. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, well, that's the thing. Like, I was, I was expected. I wasn't expecting them. I was expecting them to get away because they tend to, but not always. Don't get me wrong, like, there was some films I've seen where the killers kill everyone in the end and no one survives. But I wasn't expecting the kid to literally lose his nut and smash James McAvoy's face in repeatedly with the boulder. [00:18:12] Speaker A: I thought James McAvoy was gonna live and he'd be like bleeding and whatever at the end and then start laughing or something. And then, you know, you'd have a potential sequel at some point. But that kid, he went to town on him. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah, he did. Really regular man is like, that's my boy. Well, at least he got a bunny at the end of it. Yeah, because he was given a bunny by the girl who was crying for a bunny constantly. [00:18:43] Speaker A: And the dad got what he wanted because the kid gave away a bunny. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:47] Speaker A: You know Win, Win. [00:18:49] Speaker B: Exactly. You need to remember that. But the thing I think. I think. I think about films like this, right, in general, where it just ends with, like, the family going away from, like, a group of killers or something. It's like, my thing is, is if the police go there, find these corpses, do they then look for the people who killed them and then put them in jail or. Because I know it, it doesn't matter at all. For some reason, I'm like, well, they've just drove off. They didn't form the police to say, this is what's happened, we need help. We've also killed these people because they were trying to kill us. It's like, oh, we've just drove home. [00:19:33] Speaker A: Well, you know what ruins that as well in this case? The little boy. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:37] Speaker A: Because, you know, they can quite easily get on a plane and fuck off. They can't take him. [00:19:42] Speaker B: No. [00:19:42] Speaker A: They won't have any passport for him, especially if he's like Danish and stuff. We've picked this kid up at the duty free. Some people take home a jog, we take home a mute child. [00:19:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Daft, isn't it? [00:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:00] Speaker B: But I don't know why that popped into my head. It's like loads of films end with them just going away. But, like, what would actually happen? Like if the police were all of a sudden turned up to find all these dead people, then they'd investigate it, then they'd go to the people who killed them and just left and then they'd probably end up in jail. I don't know why that matters to me, but it does. [00:20:24] Speaker A: You could have ended it with them driving up to a police station or something. [00:20:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Because to me, realistically, if I had lived through that, that's what I'd do. [00:20:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:34] Speaker A: Because you won't want to spend the whole of your life on the run. You've got the photos clearly evidence down in that bunker thing. Lots of, let's get this sorted out and write it off. You know, maybe we'll have to spend a few nights in a cell and a lot of. Get this underlined and done and ask for therapy because you're gonna need some therapy. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, lots of therapy, I reckon. Lots. But, yeah, I enjoyed this film. I think it was definitely the better of a lot of the two films we've watched recently. Assassin's Creed and this. This is by far. Obviously, I don't know how it would have been if I'd seen the original film first, just because of the different endings. [00:21:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:19] Speaker B: But don't know If I would prefer the ending where the family gets moided or where the family doesn't get moided. Who knows? [00:21:36] Speaker A: It's hard, isn't it? Because part of me almost wanted McAvoy to live because it's just the, the life he breathes into the characters he does he. You want to see more of it. But then I also like seeing the little lad get his. Come and smash his tormentor's face off. So it's, you know. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Like obviously I haven't seen the original so I'm wondering like, do the parents get killed and the daughter get. Or child then get taken or does the child get killed as well as the parent? You know, I don't know anything about that. So maybe I'll have a look at it. See by watching it maybe give her a fell before watching it, see what it's like. [00:22:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean if it's half as good as this one, it's watchable. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah. So one thing I didn't realize right is this film was on for long. I thought it was on for like an hour and 50 minutes, obviously like 10 minutes, that's probably credits. But I, I didn't realize it was as long as it was. I thought it was like hour and 20 minutes or something. But I enjoyed it cuz it, you know, the film is a slow burn. Like. Yeah, nothing really happens until quite late in the film. Like, like throughout these like instance of oh, this, this, these few people are dodgy every so often. There's nothing like really bad apart from him like smacking the kid about. But for the majority of it it's like not a lot going on. Yeah, not a lot of negative stuff going on there because a lot of the time they seem all right with each other and then they just, you just have these little instances of oh, something's not right here. And then it's like the last like half hour of the film where it's like hits the fan and I like that. It's like the original Alien. It's like something happens at the beginning, then it's a slow burn until the alien comes along and then it's a slow burn again until the alien becomes an adult alien and you know, slow burning. And I think it works better especially with a horror film. [00:23:39] Speaker A: It's a building attention and a building a character at the same time. Yeah, you keep getting the stakes get higher because you care more about the people, but you're more concerned about the threat because that keeps getting like measured up and it just works well in Sort of together, bumping up piece by piece. [00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah, unlike your mother's dead straight away. You haven't even met them yet. Kind of doesn't kind of all the same weight. [00:24:08] Speaker A: No, not really. [00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So is there anything else you'd like to add about this film? [00:24:17] Speaker A: Dude, no. Again, I've got a favorite quote from it. [00:24:22] Speaker B: What's that? [00:24:24] Speaker A: And it's the baddie, Paddy the baddie. Technology advanced incredibly. But emotionally speaking, we're all still cave dwellers. It's all this perfect life. Instagram, Facebook book, everybody talking, but nobody honest. It's left us impatient and stressy. Probably the most true thing he says during the whole film. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that is a good one. And it's pretty accurate as well. I still like the one where he's like, you. You. You like my mom. You play with your food. You're my mum's cat when you play with your food. I still like that. It's just so unexpected. You play with your food, you like my mom's cat. It's like, what the. [00:25:16] Speaker A: That did just come out of nowhere. And it was the perfect sort of sassy, like, material. It's just like, wow. But it also showed that that guy's not afraid, you know, I mean, there's clearly some equal partnership between them because he's mental, but he can say stuff like that to him. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I get you. I think it's. I don't know, maybe it's because they friends or something. So he doesn't mind it as much. Who knows? Yeah, I don't. [00:25:49] Speaker A: Well, may maybe as well. I think he had more respect for the mom of the family than dad because I think he liked people who stood up for what they wanted. I think when she was arguing about, like, her point of view, he liked that more than the man who was like, oh, oh, no, let's all make peace. All I think he did, he did have a like, for honesty and a like, upfrontness. And he liked people dropping the. And just being straight because other than, like, hiding he was gonna kill you. [00:26:20] Speaker B: Yeah, great. [00:26:20] Speaker A: This is what I want. This is what I'm gonna take. And yeah, yeah. [00:26:28] Speaker B: It does appear to be that way. That he did seem to want to, like, debate a bit, but at the same time, he didn't. I while he liked that, I think he kind of also at the same time still wanted his own way. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Which I think that's often the way, isn't it? With a lot. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:50] Speaker A: People like who he based it off. Like, the whole Andrew. They like to Have a debate. As long as they're managing to keep the upper hand. Yeah, people can fight back, but only up to the point that they start to feel they're losing. And then Mary Factor comes out. [00:27:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And he definitely remembered that she was vegetarian. Yeah. Made her eat the duck or goose. Even the golden goose. Yeah. I think with this, I would give this 8 out of 10. I think it was very good for the most part. I just wouldn't mind seeing the original version now just to see how it compares. [00:27:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I really liked this. I'm either heading 8 or 9. Oh, it's hard to come, but I'll give you an 8.5 for the fact I can't make a decision. [00:27:50] Speaker B: Perfectly reasonable. I think that's gonna be us, though. If you haven't seen Speak no Evil, then check her out. I don't know if you want to watch the original just because it ends differently, even though you know how both end now, because we told you, basically, when it comes to my podcast, make sure you've watched the film first because there will be spoilers in every episode. It's just the way it is. It's difficult to talk about films and things without going into spoiler territory, you know, at least for me. [00:28:24] Speaker A: When I do reviews, I often try and talk about the beginning and the middle and leave the end blank. But that's all right because you only tend to do a review for. Well, not like the ones I do are like two minutes, which you can. When you try and have a long talk about all the themes in a film, it's hard to, like, not spoil it because. Well, it'd be incredibly short if you went when I were going to stop talking because don't want to tell you what happens. [00:28:50] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:28:53] Speaker A: I do know this film's definitely spoiled the song Eternal Flame for me. You've not heard Eternal Flame till you've heard a James scream at another man, you know? [00:29:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it is great. I think that is going to be us. We will be back hopefully in a fortnight. I can't say for certain, but take care, everyone. Thank you, Kerr, for taking part as per usual. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Thanks for having me on again. It's been great. [00:29:26] Speaker B: No worries at all, man. It's great having you on. Bye. Bye, everyone. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Bye. Make. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Your fucking car's on fire. Let's finish it, eh? We've got him on the hook, Mike. I told you, you should just top him first thing. Why do you do this? Play with your food. You like my mum's cat.