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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Welcome to Pugsley Crew Reviews Podcast. Podcast where we talk about all manner of films, whether they're good, bad, or just in between. We'll give them a watch. And today we have with me again, Kerr 9000. [00:00:23] Speaker B: Hello. [00:00:25] Speaker A: How's it going, dude? [00:00:27] Speaker B: Not bad. How are you doing? [00:00:28] Speaker A: I am doing well. I am doing well. You been up much recently? [00:00:33] Speaker B: No, not much. Just switch to launch and stuff. [00:00:36] Speaker A: Yeah, fun times. [00:00:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Today we're talking about a film which is based on a video game. The next film we'll be talking about will also be a film based on a video game. But this one was based on Postal, which I'd never played Postal. I did play some of Postal 2. [00:01:01] Speaker B: I think that was the more popular one. [00:01:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Because the old Postal is top down. [00:01:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:07] Speaker B: The first two Grand Theft Autos and then Postal 2's more first person shooter, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I briefly played the first one, but not loads. [00:01:19] Speaker A: No, I. I don't think I ever played it all. Only the second one. And I think there's a third one as well. No, well, I think up to four. Damn. [00:01:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. I've never touched three or four. [00:01:32] Speaker A: No, I like. I don't think I ever will either. So Postal is a film that sees the guy going from unhappy to killing people and then it ends bad. I basically there's a group of terrorists, they want to get these crotchy dolls, which are little penises, and eat inside the ass of each of those dolls is a bird flu thing. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Viola. Bird flu. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Because that's gonna destroy the US or something. But at the same time, another group of people are trying to get the crotchy dolls to sell them because they one sold on like ebay or whatever the fuck it was on the film for $4,000. So they wanted to get the money by selling a lot of crotchy dolls. But it turns out that that isn't actually the case. And one of the guys who was helping the heist actually wanted the bird flu virus to use it worldwide destroy the Earth. Because that's what some. One of the other guys had said. Because he said that the earth was gonna, you know, end and God and. [00:03:15] Speaker C: Blah, blah, blah, blah. [00:03:16] Speaker A: But it was just. He made up just because he was just trying to get his own, like, cult going. [00:03:25] Speaker B: I mean, it is the case and it's like a cult that's made for the express purpose of making him rich and getting him laid. [00:03:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:33] Speaker B: But then somebody else has believed into it so hard, they've took it in a different direction and he's sort of lost control of his own cult. [00:03:41] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [00:03:43] Speaker A: That is exactly what it is. I. I'll be honest, and I'll. I'll start this off is I didn't like the film. It didn't. Thought it was. [00:03:58] Speaker B: I thought it was ridiculous, but I also partly enjoyed it. [00:04:02] Speaker A: There were a couple of scenes that made me laugh, but not many, most of it. And I. I thought the film was like two or three hours long because it felt like I was watching something for hours. And I looked at it and it was on for hour. And just. Just coming up, just. Just about an hour. And there was like another. Yeah, hour and 10 minutes we were in. And there was another, like, 20 minutes left. And I was like, oh, for sake. This is ever gonna end. [00:04:33] Speaker B: I never know how to pronounce this director's name. Is it Ooey bowl? Or. [00:04:37] Speaker A: I think it's pronounced Uwe Bowl. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Uwe Bowl. [00:04:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:41] Speaker A: Because I think it's here in the film. [00:04:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they do, don't they? He says it's the most important film he's made. I thought I'd get that across while you saying our crap. It is. [00:04:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:53] Speaker A: I. I didn't like. I liked some of. Some of the scenes. I think my favorite scene in the entire film, the entire film was where to use a cat as a silencer. And then the cat was perfectly fine. [00:05:09] Speaker B: Do you know that the animatronic cat used for that scene, it's briefly seen and hardly any time at all. 45,000American dollars. That cost what? Yep. [00:05:23] Speaker A: Really? That is shocking. Hell. [00:05:32] Speaker B: I think, you know, I thought that was funny, but I also think you could have done a lot more other things with $45,000. [00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. For that amount of money, you should have spent on something better. But I did think it was funny. The old, like the. The bet. Literally, the best part of the film is just using the cat as a silence. I like. Then he puts the cat down, the cat smokes out. Fine. It's like. [00:05:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Also, one of the scenes I found quite funny, to be fair, is where, like, the terrorists and all that turn up and everyone shooting, like, 98 of the people who were shot with kids. I don't know why I found that funny, but I did. It's like, why. Why did they do that? Is that, like, are they making a reference to the game where now you kill a lot of kids or they try to be controversial or. [00:06:27] Speaker B: I think it was an attempt at controversy because I think most of the things in this film are an Attempt at controversy. It's very scathing of religion. You know, kids are free to get killed. Gratuitous sex. There's the thing where they go on about it made me laugh because we watched Snow White recently, the new one, and towards the end of that film, they try and wrap the whole film up with just like a big impassioned speech about if we all love more. And. And he tries that when everyone's shooting at each other. He's like, if we all unite in what we have in common. And I think, like, they all go. Hatred of the Jewish. No. A nice thing. A nice thing. [00:07:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:07:13] Speaker B: But now I just. It is. I can't think of many films which you could deem more controversial than this. But one of the controversial things is my favorite part of it, and it's right near the beginning where they're having the debate about the number of virgins you get for being a suicide bomber. He's like, you said 99. He told me 100. Well, what does one virgin matter? They're like. But if they're saying different things, do they really know? Let's get the boss on the phone. [00:07:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:42] Speaker A: And then on the phone, it's like, I can't guarantee more than 20. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker A: And they were gonna go to. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Bermuda or Jamaica or something. I can't remember where, but they were gonna turn the plane around. [00:07:55] Speaker A: The Bahamas. [00:07:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it. Bahamas. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Bahamas. Instead of. Instead of doing something dodgy, go to the Bahamas. And obviously that didn't happen. And they crashed the plane into a guy washing a window. [00:08:09] Speaker B: That scene. They showed several seconds of it to people who'd lost loved ones in 911 because they. Well, not. Not the director or the filmmakers. Newspapers. Sorry. Showed it to people who. [00:08:27] Speaker A: All right. [00:08:28] Speaker B: No. Build up to it. They didn't show the joke about the vert. They just showed basically to rile them up to get this film's awful blah, blah, blah headlines. [00:08:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:38] Speaker B: And that made the film look really bad, which I'm not saying it's good, but when it's taken in context, the joke isn't at the expense of the victims. It's at the expense of the terrorists, if you know what I mean. [00:08:50] Speaker C: Yeah, it is. [00:08:54] Speaker B: But it's just. It's another example. It's like crappy things the media does in it. [00:08:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:58] Speaker A: But it. It implies, like, throughout, that George W. Bush was behind 911 anyway because he got regular. Him and Osama bin Laden regularly on the phone to each other. [00:09:14] Speaker B: It kind of like implies a gay relationship between them in A way, doesn't it? Because he's like, oh, I just can't quit you, George. And yeah, I thought, oh, some people are gonna really get stirred up by that. [00:09:25] Speaker A: Exactly. But yeah, it's a film that did get a couple of chuckles out of me, but also at the same time, like it was, to be fair, an offensive film. The amount of times they use the Our word, for example, they use that a lot and it's like, you know. Yeah, but it's, it's very. It's just. It's not as fun as I thought it was gonna be. But then again, I knew nothing of it, so I thought it would have just been a bit of like silliness. And it is silliness, but not the best kind of silliness. A bit. [00:10:17] Speaker B: I mean, I think it's more something he made to be deliberately political. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:25] Speaker B: And hide it behind Tom Foolery. [00:10:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:31] Speaker B: I was surprised J.K. simmons was in it. I thought he was a pretty big actor to have turn up, but apparently he ad libbed all his lines nearly. So maybe that's why. Maybe he's like, I'll turn up, but I can't be asked to read a script or I'm just gonna say stuff. [00:10:47] Speaker A: And yeah, there's a few people I recognize throughout the film and I was like, I. I recognize this person, I recognize this person, but I couldn't say where from or who. [00:11:00] Speaker B: The little guy, Verne Troy is Mini Me from Austin Powers, isn't it? [00:11:06] Speaker C: Yeah, he is, yeah. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:08] Speaker A: And he got raped by a thousand monkeys. [00:11:11] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. [00:11:17] Speaker A: That was silly. So, I mean, what are your thoughts on this film then, Kirk? [00:11:33] Speaker B: I think it's enjoyable really, but I think you've got to have your silly head on. You need to know what you're getting into. And you're getting into a political farce that just doesn't take anything seriously at all. And if you're easily offended, don't watch it because it's going to try its very hardest to offend you at every turn. [00:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely trying to offend. I think like you said, behind it, it is like a political message and religious messages and things like that, but it's not written in the best way they could. For me, it's. If a lot of it falls flat, it's not entertaining enough to kind of make you think about these things in a way or to get laughs at the. The premises that they, they try in the things they. Trying to get across. I think that's the thing. It just falls a bit flat for me. Which is a shame because, you know, it could have been fun. I guess. [00:12:52] Speaker B: The problem isn't it, you've got to decide what do you want to be. Do you want to be a political message or do you want to be a comedy? And it never really decides. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I think if. I think if you're gonna do satire, you need to do it better. Better satire. That's what I say. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, we've watched worse because it's like, apparently no scene in this film had more than five takes. Well, that's probably still four takes more than Samurai Cop. [00:13:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:29] Speaker A: But I. I'm gonna be honest, I enjoyed Samurai Cop more because Samurai Cop was. It was awful, but it was genuinely awesome because of how awful it was. Is kind of the whole too so bad is good thing. And that worked for her. Whereas this. [00:13:52] Speaker B: Well, I think here, they. They tried to make a stupid satire film. [00:13:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:59] Speaker B: And that's funny to a degree, but I think Samurai Cop, they were trying their earnest hardest to make a good film. [00:14:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:10] Speaker B: And the fact it's retarded at the end of it and stupid despite their efforts is what makes it funnier. You know, that they weren't aiming for that. They were aiming for like, you know, a gold standard amazing film and just all the entertaining mishaps that make it trash is what makes it fun. [00:14:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:34] Speaker A: I agree with you though. But yeah, I did prefer Samurai Cobb. I didn't. I preferred this to Cocaine Shark. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, definitely. [00:14:47] Speaker A: Because that was awful. To be fair, when I put her on, my Miss is like, what do you make me watch? After about 10 minutes? Because she's like, really? This shit? I said, it is shit. And I said, I have no idea what it's about. I just know that it's a film based on a game. And by the end she's like, I didn't like it. It was crap. But you made. You have made me watch worse, so. Fair enough. [00:15:11] Speaker B: Cocaine Shark is the lowest we've gone, I think. [00:15:13] Speaker A: I think so. [00:15:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:15] Speaker B: When they make Those lists of 10 films you should watch before you die, I think Cocaine Sharks, the reverse, it'll be on the list of 10 films you should die before you watch. [00:15:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I gather. But with this film, I don't know, like, I always try and get right down notes. I'm watching films, sometimes I get a load, sometimes I don't. With this and the other film, I'm not any down other than where they were going when they said they weren't going to. About the Bahamas and Also shite, because that's what I thought the film was. It was funny enough. Haha funny. But it was quite strange to see the dirt. The game guy, the guy behind the game's like, what have you done to my game with this movie? And then they start fighting. Then Uwe bowl shoots the guy who made the games and then Uwe bowl gets shot in the balls. [00:16:20] Speaker B: Oh. And says I hate video games. [00:16:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Ironic because he's made a couple of video game films. [00:16:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:27] Speaker A: He's made a fair few, haven't he? [00:16:29] Speaker B: I think. Was it Silent Hill he made? [00:16:32] Speaker A: I don't know if he made Silent Hill, I can't remember. But I enjoyed the first Silent Hill film. I don't think it was amazing or anything, but I thought it was pretty good for a video game film. [00:16:43] Speaker B: I still think the gold standard for video game films is possibly the first Mortal Kombat film. I really enjoyed that. [00:16:50] Speaker A: I enjoyed it, but watching it back, I didn't enjoy as much as I did when I was younger. One thing that is missing for me is the. Which is. I guess it's kind of a petty thing, but for a video 18 rated video game you've got a film that's for 12 year olds or something. [00:17:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. But that's the weird world we live in because they try and make toys for 18 films and kids cartoon. I mean like there was a Kids cartoon show, RoboCop. [00:17:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:29] Speaker B: So it's weird in it. There's this thing where something's a big famous 18 classic Avenger cartoon. Yeah. And then they try and market stuff related to it down to kids but then tell kids they can't watch the source material. Weird. [00:17:44] Speaker A: It was Terminator toys. [00:17:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Back in the day when the films weren't shipped. Oh, what's that really? Is it Terminator Genesis is meant to be really bad. We'll have to watch that at some point. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, I think that's the one with Matt Smith in it. A Skynet or something in it. [00:18:07] Speaker A: And knows I haven't got a clue. I just know it's meant to be. So we'll have to watch it and then watch T1 and T2 and then be like, yeah, this is how you do things. Brilliant films. [00:18:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Big fan of both the terminate first two Terminator films. I also really like the Sarah Corner Chronicles, which doesn't get enough love in my opinion. [00:18:28] Speaker B: How long did that go on? I know, I saw the first season of it. [00:18:31] Speaker A: There was two seasons and then it got canceled. Another show was picked up for a second or third season and I. I would rather I watched that one as well. I think, I think it was Dollhouse and which was. I enjoyed. But I would have rather Connor Chronicles carry on because the cliffhanger ending is fucking bullshit. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Yeah. You do wish that when series has got cancelled that at least give them a 90 minute movie to, you know, tie a bow on the end of it. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I wouldn't know what way they would have gone with season three, to be honest. But it would have been fun to find out. Bastards. Bastards. That's what they are. So then Hostel, I would rate it 4 out of 10. I. I genuinely didn't like it, but because of a couple of chuckles, I give it four. [00:19:32] Speaker B: I'd generously give it a six. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Best scene, Cat. [00:19:40] Speaker B: My best scene's still the arguing over the virgins. Which is sad that my favorite scenes in the first five minutes. But yeah. [00:19:52] Speaker A: It is a bit sad actually because you know, you got a whole film to go. Also the ending I like I said I'm not playing Postal, but does Postal go from a. Because I thought it was like a guy goes on a rampage because down in the dumps and his check doesn't get paid or something and then he goes on. You go on a rampage. But in this is about terrorists and they're not and. And cults and stuff like that, which I didn't think had anything to do with the games. And then you have the end going, oh yeah, China are nuke in America. And then all of a sudden it ends with the US being nuked. I was like, where the did that come from? [00:20:34] Speaker B: I just think he wanted a off key dauer ending to it because usually everything's wrapped up in a happy ending. So I think he was just going, sod this, we're gonna go miserable. Because I think, you know, it's like a metaphor for where he probably thinks the world's going. Really. Like the world's not having a happy ending. I think the world's going to, therefore my film will too. [00:20:56] Speaker A: It's very possible as that's what he's thought his thought process was. But it just seemed to like so out of the blue, like if they wanted to make it sad, just like have Postal dude as they call him, get shot or something, you know, something like something and all just, oh, all of a sudden the China are gonna nuke the US out. Like literally no mention of China throughout the entire film that I'm aware of. No, nothing at all mentioned about some kind of wars or anything. Going on when it comes to China. Nothing about nukes. Then all of a sudden in the last two minutes of the film, there's a news report that goes, china are going to nuke the U.S. they're going to hit in less than two minutes. [00:21:46] Speaker B: And then tried to crowdfund a sequel to this. [00:21:51] Speaker A: Where would you go with a sequel? Everything's been nuked. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Well, I'm assuming post apocalyptic sequel. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Fair enough. [00:22:02] Speaker B: But then you're heading down the fallout route really, aren't you? [00:22:05] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what. [00:22:07] Speaker A: That's what it is. Postal is what caused fallout. Full of TV shows. Pretty good. Actually not amazing. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Oh yeah, it is. Yeah, I enjoyed that. Walter Goggins, is it? As the ghoul. Yeah, he was great. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Rather good show. Anything you want to add about this? If not, we'll wrap up on this one. [00:22:35] Speaker B: N. I think I've said all I could say about this film. [00:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I think it's. I think it's more of a watch in a morbid curiosity kind of way. But otherwise there are other films out there that we've watched that I would pick over this. [00:22:55] Speaker C: So. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not anything I'm ever gonna put on again for a re watch. [00:23:00] Speaker A: No, definitely. But I think that will do us because we're done. Thank you for taking part. It's been a pleasure as always. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Oh, you're welcome. It's been a pleasure being on. [00:23:18] Speaker A: I'm glad. And thank you for taking the time to watch Postal. It was very interesting. It was very something. Anyway. Anyway. Bye bye everyone who's listened and see you again in a fortnight. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Bye bye. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Last question. What is the difference between a duck. [00:23:56] Speaker B: And. [00:24:06] Speaker D: What the hell is wrong with you people? [00:24:09] Speaker A: Duck. I don't. Yeah. [00:24:10] Speaker D: I came here for a job. A job. As far as I know, that job has nothing to do with a cock sucking motherfucking duck.